Hey there, football fanatics and fantasy lovers! Have you ever wondered how injuries to key players like Luke Musgrave and Aaron Jones could shake up the NFL and influence your fantasy lineups? Well, we've got you covered. On our latest episode, we're breaking down these injuries and more, diving into potential strategies for your fantasy football teams, and predicting the outcomes of the highly anticipated Thanksgiving games. Starting off with Luke Musgrave's injury, we examine its implications and the possible return of Kyren Williams. We also delve into the roles that AJ Dillon and Jordan Love could play in the absence of Aaron Jones for the Green Bay Packers.
We know you're probably curious about the recent firing of Matt Canada, the Pittsburgh Steelers' offensive coordinator. We've got you covered there, too. We discuss the potential ramifications for players like Kenny Pickett and George Pickens, and we even touch upon the future of struggling players like Zach Wilson, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, and Najee Harris. We also dig into the outstanding performances by the Giants' defense and quarterback Tommy DeVito, analyzing their potential impact on your fantasy lineups. And of course, with Thanksgiving around the corner, we talk turkey—or rather, talk about the Thanksgiving games, highlighting key players to watch and potential fantasy strategies.
Wrapping things up, we provide a comprehensive analysis of the upcoming playoffs schedule. Need advice on who to start or sit in your lineups? We've got you covered. We share our insights on the favorable schedule for Houston and discuss the potential risks of relying on their players. We also highlight the stunning performance of Isiah Pacheco and Joe Mixon's recent success. As your go-to guides for all things football, we're here to equip you with the information you need to outsmart your opponents and take your fantasy football teams to new heights. So, tune in, kick back, and let's talk football!
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Hey there, football fanatics and fantasy lovers! Have you ever wondered how injuries to key players like Luke Musgrave and Aaron Jones could shake up the NFL and influence your fantasy lineups? Well, we've got you covered. On our latest episode, we're breaking down these injuries and more, diving into potential strategies for your fantasy football teams, and predicting the outcomes of the highly anticipated Thanksgiving games. Starting off with Luke Musgrave's injury, we examine its implications and the possible return of Kyren Williams. We also delve into the roles that AJ Dillon and Jordan Love could play in the absence of Aaron Jones for the Green Bay Packers.
We know you're probably curious about the recent firing of Matt Canada, the Pittsburgh Steelers' offensive coordinator. We've got you covered there, too. We discuss the potential ramifications for players like Kenny Pickett and George Pickens, and we even touch upon the future of struggling players like Zach Wilson, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, and Najee Harris. We also dig into the outstanding performances by the Giants' defense and quarterback Tommy DeVito, analyzing their potential impact on your fantasy lineups. And of course, with Thanksgiving around the corner, we talk turkey—or rather, talk about the Thanksgiving games, highlighting key players to watch and potential fantasy strategies.
Wrapping things up, we provide a comprehensive analysis of the upcoming playoffs schedule. Need advice on who to start or sit in your lineups? We've got you covered. We share our insights on the favorable schedule for Houston and discuss the potential risks of relying on their players. We also highlight the stunning performance of Isiah Pacheco and Joe Mixon's recent success. As your go-to guides for all things football, we're here to equip you with the information you need to outsmart your opponents and take your fantasy football teams to new heights. So, tune in, kick back, and let's talk football!
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All right, all right, all right, welcome to the show. This is the Franklin fantasy football podcast. We are your hosts, Frankie and Johnny. How you doing, frankie, what's?
Speaker 2:up, I'm doing great, baby, hold on. Just want to show everybody a little something. I got on here a little bit of fantasy, a little bit of football, a little bit of the legend. Shout out to Sean Hickey Frankie you are, you know. Appreciate that, john. Appreciate that. You know, guys, john, I ended up playing the number one guy in both of our leagues. He beat my ass in one league. I mean it was embarrassing my guys. I mean it was. I'm going to have to have a stern talking. But the other game baby came in with fire in my asshole and I beat his ass, dude, so I had to wear the shirt.
Speaker 1:Fire in your asshole Sounds like you had Chipotle for lunch then. Huh, sure did, and it sure was what you think. Now I've got my. I'm still in mountain man mode. I'm on vacation in Sedona, arizona, still here, thought I'd wear my mountain man hat, my Indiana Jones hikin hat. You know, got the orange dust all over my boots, got my manly beard growing out. Yeah, man, I think I I may stay out here and kick back and whittle a bit, you know.
Speaker 2:Why not Whittle on your whittle, on the sticks and with your magnesium fats?
Speaker 1:Don't be whittle in my stick, man. That's not exactly what I'm doing out here. I mean, I have, but not all the time. Welcome to the show everybody. Thank you for joining us. This is our Thanksgiving episode, a little longer episode. We're just doing one this week, so we're going to try to get in as much information as we can to everybody. We're going to be getting into our starts and sits for the week. We're going to review. We've got three games on Thursday and we have a game on Friday. You know what the NFL is. So, goddamn greedy man, they're like you know what. There's actually a day this week we don't have football on TV. We should just do something about that. Amazon's pissed off because they don't get their Thursday game, you know. So they got to throw it over to Friday and let us piss off our wives and children and families for one more day during the holiday. First time in the industry, they'll be playing on Friday.
Speaker 2:First time the day after Thanksgiving, Black Friday game baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, love it, man. That's interesting. So we're going to go through those games. We're going to go through our starts and sits for the Sunday and Monday games. Then we're going to get into a couple of some playoff schedules. We want to show you guys, some guys, your trade deadlines are coming up. Take a look at some of these players who have just great playoff schedules. Maybe you can make a little swap, even a one for one trade, just to get a guy who's number one His buy is in week 13 and also has a great playoff schedule. So you got to do some of these little things here if you want to make it into those playoffs or you want to set yourself up for a damn great championship run.
Speaker 1:But as always, of course, we're going to get into a little news here. Man, let's see what's going on. Okay, luke Musgrave, tight end for the Green Bay Packers, suffered a significant abdomen injury. He actually went into the hospital. He was released the next day. As in practiced on Tuesday doesn't sound really good. They're saying it was a significant abdomen injury. So keep an eye on that and see what's going on with him. He may not play this week.
Speaker 1:Kyren Williams running back for the Los Angeles Rams back off IR. He is expected to return this week and I'll tell you what. I'm fully confident that he plays this week because they just waved Darrell Henderson. So you don't get rid of some shit if you need it Again. We talked about Kyren Williams really good schedule coming up here. If you can get him, get him. You should have tried to get him last week of the week before knowing he was coming off of IR, but this is a guy that's got a fantastic schedule moving forward.
Speaker 1:Michael Thomas, wide receiver for the New Orleans Saints, going on IR. He's done. He's not going to be fantasy relevant for you. Aaron Jones running back for the Green Bay Packers, likely out on Thursday. There's no chance he plays MCL sprain, thank God. It's just that it looked really bad. He got carted off the field with the towel over his head Never a good sign, but he's going to be out. It's probably going to be a few weeks. Keep an eye on that. How do you feel about AJ Dylan moving forward? Is he just kind of like eh, or is it a smash play? What do you think about that moving forward, frank?
Speaker 2:It's kind of like an eh, john, if I'm being honest with you, and it's just because it's not the same skill set of Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones is an elite pass catcher in my personal opinion, and is a shifty back and does an excellent job. And so AJ Dylan's, the bruiser between the tackles yeah, he can catch the ball as well, but it's just different. So for me, man, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. I think this is going to be a little bit more on Jordan Love. If anything, it could open him up to pass in the ball a little bit more. But yeah, I mean definitely.
Speaker 2:Aj Dylan, though, is not a guy Like when I say, ma, he's not a guy that you want to discredit by any means. So if there's a good matchup coming up, I mean it's definitely somebody you can plug in your flex, especially with bi weeks next week and on week 14, john. So it's going to be pretty crazy, and but yeah, it's definitely a guy that you can. You might be able to play in the future, but I wouldn't say it's going to drastically increases stock.
Speaker 1:No, it's, he's not a smash play these next two weeks, when I would expect Aaron Jones to be out at Detroit and at home versus Kansas City Very difficult teams to run against, man. I mean, deandre Swift had really good luck on Monday night, but that's the Eagles. You know this. They're not worried about Jalen Hertz and AJ Brown and all these the Packers. It's a different scenario. They know they're going to have to run the ball. It's yeah, that's going to be difficult man. Okay, let's see. Still unsure about Justin Jefferson. Are they just being overly precocious here?
Speaker 2:No, I genuinely think that he's not going to play this week. Why would you have him play this week? I mean, your bi week is, next is a is in week 13. Why risk it at this point in time? You guys are literally John. The Vikings are actually making a serious push to be in the playoffs, and so just chill one more week, don't fuck it up. Let him go into the bi week, get super healthy and come back. So for me, man, no, I don't think this is a head game thing. I don't think this is them teasing. I think it's genuinely. Justin Jefferson truly wants to make sure he's 100%, because the other thing that's factoring into this guys is contracts. So his contract is going to be coming into play. So if he walks in hurt or whatever it is, or drastically re-injure something, it could play into a little bit negative side of that. So for me, man, I think it's totally chill out, wait till after the buy.
Speaker 1:Kenneth Walker, the third KW three is going to miss some time with an oblique injury. Here's, here's the Kenneth Walker thing. We were just talking about this on a recent podcast. Guy's been great, but yeah, he will miss some time. He will miss some time for sure. Seahawks are unsure of his timeline, but they're saying he's not an IR candidate, so we're probably looking at a couple of games here. Zach Charbonne, how do you feel about him moving forward? Is this a a fire him up and feel good, or is it kind of an AJ Dillon situation? What do you think?
Speaker 2:John, I got to be completely honest with you. I actually think that this is a little bit worse than the AJ Dillon situation, and for the subtle reason I think that Zach Charbonne is a better back. I don't want to. I don't think that there's a question for that. Here's the problem. They play the San Francisco 49ers, they then play the Dallas Cowboys at Dallas, they then come back and play the San Francisco 49ers at the San Francisco 49ers, then they go and play the Eagles, and then they play at Tennessee and then Pittsburgh. John, that is an ugly, ugly schedule. So for me, man, yes, he's a good back, yes, he's going to get the ops. The problem is the defenses that they are playing are excellent, not just good, excellent. So it's a little bit tough, man, it's good to see Zach Charbonne getting the opportunity. It's bad that the schedule is allowing the step to come to fruition.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I mean looking at this. Yes, here's the situation. If you haven't done it already, you're going to pay money for Zach Charbonne on the waiver wire just because you have to. He's starting running back, there is garbage on the waiver wire. But yeah, man, I mean you're doing it as a depth piece for an injury. You don't want to play him, but you might have to. That's the key. But yeah, I mean you, look at that schedule.
Speaker 1:Every single game is a terrible matchup from here to the end of the year for all Seattle Seahawks. In my mind, every single one. Yeah, I mean really, where this could help is DK Metcalf. We saw DK healthy. We saw what he could do this past week. Tyler Lockett's been banged up. I think DK will be OK, but I think really he's going to be the only one man I mean I would be sitting. Geno Smith, if he's your number one quarterback in a single quarterback league, look for streaming options now or make a trade, get somebody else. It's just going to be really, really difficult. It's a very unfortunate end to the season here.
Speaker 1:And as far as Charbonne, these next three games, like you said, 49ers, dallas 49ers oh, that is when it's helper stretch than that, john. That's rough, that's really really rough. Yeah, all right, let's move on here. Cooper Cup this one was a little scary here. Cooper Cup is day to day with a low ankle sprain. Thank God it's a low ankle sprain. It's on the lying on the bench, hands over his face, and he was in pain. I went oh God, here we go. That was it, but it's a low ankle sprain. He's day to day. They had not ruled him out. We're recording this on Tuesday, so he has not been ruled out yet, but keep an eye on him. If he doesn't go, oh my God, pukinakua, what a great matchup that's going to be for him. Yeah, Little, hey, hey, the chicken on the rack.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey.
Speaker 1:That's right, all right, pete Carroll, coach of the Seattle Seahawks, optimistic about Geno Smith playing Thursday. Geno had an elbow injury here, but they were pretty competent that he's going to be playing on Thursday. Jets J-E-T-S. Oh hey, way to go, guys, way to make a decision. Finally, right, jets to start Tim Boyle over Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson has now moved to the QB three. They fucked this all up, didn't they? Totally yeah.
Speaker 2:John, they fucked it up so bad. This is a masterclass of what not to do At this point in time. Why not just play it out with Zach Wilson, like, why not just throw everything at the book at this kid and truly, truly see if there's any shining light here? The problem with this is Zach Wilson. John, I was telling you this before we even got on today. Yeah, he's played bad. He's played bad. I've seen worse. I really have seen worse quarterback play, and what this shows me is that, hey, they did not do a good job at the trade deadline. Number one to get another offensive lineman or even a viable backup quarterback. And number two, john, what this is saying is you plug any quarterback behind that shitbag offensive line. They're going to be screwed. They're going to be absolutely screwed.
Speaker 2:This offensive line is falling apart at the seams. Zach Wilson has no time whatsoever in the pocket and even when he does, he's struggling to read. So, john, you're putting in a Tim Boyle guy that's coming in. And, yeah, he already played under Aaron Rodgers or with Aaron Rodgers, should I say, at the Packers. So there's some familiarity there. That's probably why they're rolling with him. But the reality situation is they screwed this situation up so bad in the game. The funny thing is they're still not out of the playoffs. That's what's crazy about all this. They're still in the hunt, and so for me, man, it's almost like why not just stay in the flames with Wilson, figure out your offensive line and just hand the ball off to your two bell cows, which you haven't at all. You're not handing the ball off at all to Dalvin Cook, and you're barely utilizing Breeze Hall to the level of what he could be. So for me, man, it's a shit show across the board, other than the defense. The defense is incredible. The offense couldn't be worse, man.
Speaker 1:I'm selling jets. I'm selling jets. I mean Garrett Wilson is a should I start or not? Candidate at this point. I mean he's definitely a streamer. At this point you can't just fire Garrett Wilson up at Breeze Hall. I was talking with you prior to the podcast. Here I'm going to make a move to try to move Breeze Hall.
Speaker 1:I love Breeze Hall. I think he is a league winner. But with their schedule and with what's going on with the jets, I just I'm nervous about Breeze Hall. I'd have you have to rely on him and luckily he's the kind of guy you can rely on to bust out a 50 yard run and score a touchdown. But that's kind of what has to happen. He's pulling it together right now. It's like CMC without all the touchdowns, where he's getting 50 yards rushing and he's getting 50 yards receiving and a handful of catches. It's because the quarterbacks and the offensive line sucks and they're passing, they're dumping it off to him. You can't rely on that. These good teams are just going to say we're just going to take Breeze Hall out of the game and let's see if O'Boyle can make anything happen. O'boyle does not rule guys. This guy sucks. There's a reason why he's backing up. Zach fucking Wilson. Okay, geez, all right. Enough of the jets, enough of the jets. No more news there, man, all right.
Speaker 1:Devon HN this one was so disappointing, oh my God, looking into it, I know I know Now, looking into it, it's not as bad as everyone thinks. He came down on it kind of hard. He was politicking, trying to get back in. He was trying to make a case to get back in and Coach McDaniel said no, we're not taking a chance. We need you healthy. We don't need you in this game necessarily. That's a good thing. I was really nervous. He heard it again and it's going to be out for a few more weeks. He should play this week. Most of it's a little banged up as well, so he does play. It could be really nice. But yeah, everybody can relax and cool on HN. He's going to be fine. He should play this week.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to give everybody that update here. All right, let's get to that. We got some ice and fire going on and we changed that up a little bit and we've been kind of calling it our land of misfit toys here during the holidays. So let's see what guys did really well and what guys took a shit and we're going to see what Frankie thinks we should do with these guys moving forward. Welcome to the island of misfit toys. Oh, charlie, that's why I'm a misfit toy. My name is all wrong. No child wants to play with a Charlie in the box, so I had to come here. Where's here A Charlie in the box? All right, man On ice here. Let's see some of these, these misfit toys man, kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know I forgot to bring up in the news they fired Matt Canada. The Pittsburgh Steelers fired their OC, matt Canada. I do have to say it. I don't want to bring this up because I know my brother gets really upset with me. I know you got upset with me. I'm at the Steelers game with my Steelers gear on the very first play from scrimmage. It's a run play. They run, they get stopped. Chance of firing Matt Canada First play from scrimmage in the game.
Speaker 2:That's gold.
Speaker 1:That's gold. It's like a thing that they have, where they're just always fire Canada. They just constantly Steelers fans. They fired Canada Since 2020, he's been there. The offense has not been good since Big Ben left. Now we can see. Is this really a Kenny Pickett issue or is it a Matt Canada issue? I don't know what to predict. I don't know what to expect, but I'm hoping that there's a slight bump for Kenny Pickett and George Pickens, potentially, and Deontay Johnson, who got what I think one catch last week something crazy. All right, Kenny Pickett on ice once again 106 yards, blah, blah, blah. Two points, no good, Moving forward. Do we just need to see more before we make any decisions? I've got the Pickett Pickens stack, Frank and my Super Flex. I haven't played Pickett or Pickens in probably five, six weeks. Is it going to get better for me? What do you think?
Speaker 2:John, yes, I do. I do think it's going to get slightly better. I don't think it's going to get drastically that much better to where you're going to be like, yeah, I got to fire him up for sure. The reason why I say it will get better is because they're going and playing the Cincinnati Bengals. They do have a good defense, so that's going to be a little bit tough. But then they have the Arizona Cardinals, new England Patriots, and then they ended up having, you know, the Colts, which are tough, but then they have the Bengals again. And so, john, I don't you know, this is tough because it really depends on the OC.
Speaker 2:I'm not super high on Pickett, though. Like moving forward for the rest of this year, he's going to have to prove a lot. I think. What the shift happens is, I think they feed the living hell out of Jalen Warren, and so that's where I think the value is. And what's interesting, great call on the Matt Canada firing first and foremost man. Before we dive in even further, did you know that was the first time since 1941 that 1941, that the Steelers fired a coach midseason and the and in 1941, when they did, it was actually the owner who fired himself. That is the entirety of what the Steelers have had. So it's been gold. So you know what Steelers fans that are listening here and I know a few shout out to you the Browns broke you and I'm fucking happy about it. We broke you. Welcome to the fucking show. Sorry, I had to say, hey, you break it, you break it, you break it, you break it, you break it, you break it, you break it.
Speaker 1:You break it, you buy it, so I guess we own you now we do Right what?
Speaker 2:We own you. I never thought about that. We won one win, one win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we actually split this year. They won the first game. I know I know that's where. God forbid the Browns ever win the Super Bowl, because we'll be the biggest dickhead fans you'll ever see. All right, let's get through some other shit bags here. Zach Wilson don't need to get into that anymore. Four points he's done DTR rough game. He did what he had to do, got the win, but not great man. Through the 24 for 43 for 163 yards in a pick. Six points Not great. Najee Harris Okay, are we pretty much done with Najee Harris, or is it kind of an emergency start at this point? 35 rush yards yeah, one catch. Four points.
Speaker 2:It's an emergency start for me, john. I'm not 100% out on Najee. I mean, the Browns defense was just incredible. I mean, outside of that long run that Jalen Warren had, jalen Warren was eating a little bit, I'm not going to lie. He looked like kind of like a mini chub. I've got to give him credit where credit's due. But Najee looked bad. Najee looked bad, but for me I'm still not 100% giving up on him, because this new OC could come in. It's definitely going to be Jalen Warren, but it could absolutely be Najee, maybe around the goal line. So it could be similar, a very much lesser version of a David Montgomery and a Jameer Gibbs type of thing. But, john, I think you can start fading Najee hairs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, think of him as Jalen Warren, the first five weeks of the season Exactly.
Speaker 2:That's a great way to think of him.
Speaker 1:He's going to get in there. He's going to get something. It could be a touchdown around the goal line, maybe a couple of catches, but he's not going to be fed like a beast, jalen Warren. It seems they're going to be feeding and moving forward. Great start moving forward, by the way, jalen Warren. All right, let's talk about a couple of the guys Keaton Mitchell. Okay, we talked about this. We talked about the guys Keaton Mitchell. Four points, 33 rushing yards. Moving forward with looking at this week, next week, with the Ravens running backs here. They've got some good matchups coming up. What are we doing with these guys?
Speaker 2:John, it's tough. I mean, last week we were saying, you know, probably not, gus Edwards is probably going to be Keaton Mitchell, by the way he's been performing, and here it was Gus Edwards. And so, john, it's truly a toss up. It's absolutely a toss up between Gus Edwards and Keaton Mitchell. I don't think you can start Justice Hill. I think he's slowly losing more and more time. So if you have him, god bless you, but it ain't going to be happening.
Speaker 2:So for me, man, it's. It's. You know, they're playing where? Where are they? Where are they at? This week? They're playing at that of the Chargers. So it's an interesting matchup. It's a good matchup, right? Joey Bosa's hurt, right, they're a little bit banged up in the secondary. So, yeah, man, but you're taking the risk, you're playing Russian roulette with this, with this backfield. So for me, right, knowing everybody's buying, trying to get into the playoffs, if I had Keaton Mitchell and Gus Edwards, I might really look to start both of them, like you know what I mean. Like if I don't have both, I'm saying if I have one or the other, but I think you probably need to start both at this point in time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost Keaton Mitchell's like not quite not as talented, obviously, or that much of a phenom, but it's almost like the Devon A Chan situation Totally. You've got this really fast guy who gets zero volume, but he seems to do a lot with it. But, like I said in the past, can you rely on a guy getting the ball like five times? I mean no, you really can't. You have to break out one of those big plays. So I think this week if you're just decimated on an injuries, there's no buys this week, thank God. But if you're desperate for a running back, I think you can start Keaton Mitchell. I don't know how you can expect a ton because of the volume, but they may get ahead in this game. This defense is not typically very good against the run at all. I think Gus Edwards is of smash play this week, though I really do. He's going to get the volume. He had two touchdowns last week, 12 carries. He was the running back three last week. He's the running back six on the year right now. Gus Edwards Quietly, yeah, quietly, but he's they trust him the most. So I do think Gus Edwards is the guy moving forward. For now. They got a bye week next week. That could all change after they do a little more research.
Speaker 1:King Henry man, yeah, derek Henry, the weather must not be getting cold enough for him yet, for the Yeti here, because he usually turns it on at the end of the year, but only 35 yards rushing, you know, less than five points. Austin Eckler had a rough game. Man, just didn't look good. It looked kind of slow. Five points for Austin Eckler, josh Jacobs and here's. These are all first round running backs that you took here, man, and these guys all struggled this week. 39 rushing yards out of Josh Jacobs. Garrett Wilson really rough game Again.
Speaker 1:I don't if you can sell them. Yeah, negative points, negative one. If you can sell them, sell them. I don't even know if you can. It's, I think it's just going to be a matchup, based maybe week 13 and 14, because there's buys. You can fire him up, but man, it's just brutal. Moving forward, hollywood Brown this is disappointing. Talk to me a little bit about the Cardinals offense. We thought, with Kyler Murray coming back, james Connor, hollywood Brown, these guys would blow up. It's not. It hasn't been. He has not found his chemistry back with Hollywood Brown. I mean, what do we do moving forward with him?
Speaker 2:I mean, john, you have to start him if you have it, like that's the problem. I think he's a it's not Garrett Wilson in my eyes, right, this is still a very, very good situation of Kyler Murray. You have right, a good running back, like it's not like everybody's keying in on just you here. And Rondale Moore looks good, so like you have additional pieces along with Trey McBride et cetera. So it's just unfortunate man, it's just a lack of chemistry at this point in time that I think is going to end up ironing itself out. But it's been brutal, man. I mean you look at what Hollywood Brown has has really done over the last you know couple of weeks. It's been tough, man. You look at the last three weeks. He had Cleveland. He had four points. He had Atlanta, which is again another good defense, three points in Houston. Houston's not a bad defense. I think they're underrated.
Speaker 2:So, john, it also factors in. So the teams are playing now flash ahead. They have the Rams, they're at Pittsburgh by then. They have the San Francisco. So that's tough, all of that's fairly tough. But then it's Chicago which is interesting, and then it's Philly. John, it's kind of the blessing in the curse, because many of those teams have very good defenses, but in order for them to stay in the game, they're going to need to throw the ball. So it's not like it's a running back to where, man, you know that their front seven is just dominant and you're fucked. So for this, it's a little bit different. So, man, for me, as an owner of Marquis Brown, I'm going to end up staying in the flames with him, because I think something good is going to happen with the game scripts that are going to be coming down the down the way. But it's it's risky and it's tough, it's really tough.
Speaker 1:I'm with you on that man. Aj Brown, my boy, I just traded for him, man, I just pulled off a beautiful trade. It was a very fair trade, In fact. The guys that I gave this player, who was almost out of the playoffs, you know being the highest point guy this week because of the guys I gave him. And then he gives me AJ Brown. He gives me one point. Wow, that's great. But we all know AJ Brown, he might be the best receiver in the game currently active right now. We know he's a damn beast. He's going to be fine, but I got to pair him back up with Jalen Hertz. I have the stack again which took me to the Super Bowl last year. So you know, oh no, I didn't make it to the Super Bowl, the semifinals, my bad, Okay, I'm not bitter though. Deontay Johnson another tough one. We talked about the Steelers changes here. He only had two points. Stefan Diggs what happened here? Man Orteges, 27 yards and a fumble, Fumble.
Speaker 2:I mean honestly, man, josh Allen, just, I mean, he was throwing the ball all over the place, and what I mean by that is two other people. It wasn't Gabe Davis, I can tell you that much, but it was Khalil Shakur, it was Dalton Kincaid, it was James Cook, it was right, and he tried the eight targets, right For Stefan Diggs. But, man, it was tough sledding. I mean, you know, a couple of guys were commenting on our YouTube page, john, and they were like, hey, I'm actually nervous for Stefan Diggs Because you know I was sitting here saying he's a must start every week. Well, when you go against Saus Gardner, it can happen, it can happen. And I'm still in the flames with Diggs every week. I think you're nuts to even remotely sit him because he's unsittable in my eyes, truly unsittable. Same thing with AJ Brown. Sometimes they just have shit weeks. So for me, man, I mean eight targets, still right. It was a tough sledding against that of an excellent, a dominant Jets defense. So he's going to be fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm with you, man. Let's talk about some of these guys who were on fire though Giants defense. You just wrote Giants D Huge across the screen here. Wow, what happened with the Giants here, man? Are you kidding me? Tommy DeVito, let's throw him in there while we're at it. 246 and three touchdowns for fucking Danny DeVito. 20 points out of him. Talk to me about the Giants, man. What's happening?
Speaker 2:You ready? You ready to hear what the Giants did on defense against the commanders? By the way, the commanders have the number one passing quarterback with the highest yards in the NFL. Okay, that Giants defense Sure One special teams forced fumble, one defensive touchdown, two fumble recoveries, three interceptions, four sacks and three forced fumbles. John unfreakin' believable. I mean. Nobody saw this coming, nobody, and you know. Hats off to the Giants. You've been getting shit on all year. Good for you, guys. Good for you.
Speaker 1:Good for you. They scored more points on defense in this game, I think, than they had in any other game on offense, by the way, Dude and John.
Speaker 2:Two point Tommy DeVito. Dude looked good. He looked good Instead of Danny Pennies. Yeah, I'm not calling him Danny Dimes because he ain't dropping dimes for shit. Danny Pennies over there never looked that good this year. This year, last year, sure, sure. This year absolutely not. Dude, tommy DeVito is a guy that could be serviceable. Now I'm not going to sit here and say he's the next coming, no fucking way. But what I'm telling you is this dude played his ass off and he's something to be proud of. Man. 20.5 fantasy points to your point, 246 yards, three tutties. Well done, man.
Speaker 1:That's yeah, I don't know what else to say about it. I still think you can't start anybody in this team except for Seyquan. I mean, I'm still holding true to that, I really do. But could be interesting if Darren Waller does get healthy and come back to have a big dump off short yardage target like that. He could see a lot of targets with good old Danny DeVito in there. Good, jaylen Warren we talked about it. I feel like he's kind of our secret champion together, frankie, because we've been talking about him in the off season. Everything that we talked about is coming to fruition with him 129 rush yards, three catches for 16 yards, a rushing touchdown, 25 points out of Jaylen Warren we talked about him already. We're loving him moving forward, especially with the schedule. Gus Edwards we talked about that as well. Two rushing touchdowns out of Gus Edwards, based on the schedule, moving forward, especially this week. Fire his ass up If you don't need Gus Edwards. Great trade target man, great guy to trade for or to trade away, even if you don't need him. He's just kind of one of those guys right now that he's in a sweet spot and you got to take advantage.
Speaker 1:Devin Singletary big game out of him again. Man, could this guy breathe in life into himself here? Dart? Yes, that was 112 rushing yards. Yeah, that was one of your starts of the week, frank, great call. Let me ask you this about Devin Singletary. It looks like Damien Pierce is going to be coming back here. Could be this week. What is that going to do? Are they going to keep riding the hot hand with Singletary? Is it going to be a split backfield? I mean, what do you think is going to be going on with having both of them in there?
Speaker 2:I think they're going to still ride. I think you're crazy not to ride Devin Singletary. Damien Pierce has not been even remotely as efficient as what Devin Singletary has been in the two games that he's been the bell cow. So for me, man, I think you ride Devin Singletary while you're also peppering in some of Damien Pierce a bit. I don't think Devin Singletary is going to take the full load anymore. They're going to do more of a tandem, but I think it could be like a 65-35 or 60-40 split type of thing. I mean, john, you're looking at Devin Singletary this past week. I mean it's pretty incredible 22 carries, 112 yards, a touchdown and he's catching the balls out of the backfield as well. Two for two, two receptions, two targets for six yards. John, back-to-back weeks of 20 points is nothing short of great, especially when you're playing the Bengals and the Cardinals. Man, he's been on fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he really has, man, Calvin Ridley. I knew this is so sweet, frankie, that this happened. You literally hit on every single start and sit that. You had last week all of them, except for Calvin Ridley, your champion. I even said I laughed when you said it. I said, oh man, you put your neck out there. This guy could pop off for two tutties and make him prove you're wrong. Sure, as shit he did. Calvin Ridley had a game. Talk about your boy and how he made you feel.
Speaker 2:I mean, john, you know, zay Jones comes back, it's like rubbing the genie bottle baby. It's like, hey, man, when I'm here, when Zay's back, something happens to Calvin Ridley and he goes fucking Batman mode. He ended up having nine targets, seven receptions, 103 yards. Not one touchdown but two, johnny. He ended up having 28.6 fantasy points and half PPR. I mean it was incredible. It was incredible and Trevor Lawrence was looking for him at any and all opportunity.
Speaker 2:And so for me, man, I think it sounds ridiculous, but if Zay Jones is on the field, expect Calvin Ridley to ball out, and we were talking about why, like it can't just be a coincidence, it widens the field. It widens the field more because now Zay Jones can and is shown to take the top off and do very good in running medium routes. Christian Kirk is a blow the top off, the coverage kind of receiver he always has been. And now you layer in Calvin Ridley, they have their team back, they have all three of their guys. So now it's very difficult just to key in on one guy or even shade some of the defense to that of Calvin Ridley, because now, as I said, zay Jones widens that field. So for me, man, if Zay Jones is in the lineup. I know it sounds crazy. If he's playing, you have to fire up Calvin Ridley. It's the guy going forward.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that seems to be the case and I that makes sense when you say that when they get the band back together there's a reason they have these particular players to run their particular offense and I think that's absolutely right. I think if you can distract the safety a bit with Zay Jones, it does leave Calvin Ridley open for intermediate and longer. You know ins and outs and you know comebacks and things. I think it just leaves him more open in the field. You're right, man. But yeah, we learned two lessons Number one when Zay Jones is on the field, start Calvin Ridley. And number two never include Calvin Ridley in a start sit conversation. What's so?
Speaker 2:and if I'm sitting them, you need to start them.
Speaker 1:That's exactly Someone else Frankie talks about, listen to every goddamn word he says, but when it comes to Calvin Ridley, his own champion, yeah, yeah, that's funny man. All right, let's move on here. Tank Dell, your boy man. We've been on his ass this year. Talk about Tank Dell, how good.
Speaker 2:John, not just how good he's been, sensational Tank Dell, John went nuclear again. By the way, he's number 15 receiver and half PPR on the year. Number 15, this rookie here. He was targeted 10 times. He caught eight of them for 149 yards and one touchdown. John, he is unbelievable. The last three games 27.6, 15.9, 25.9. John and what makes it even sweeter is he has the Jacksonville Jags, he has Denver, Then, yeah, he has a tough matchup with the Jets, but then it's Tennessee, Cleveland which is tough, and then Tennessee again. Majority of those games are as a very favorable matchup. Tank Dell is very interesting. Moving forward, guys.
Speaker 1:So they've got Tennessee twice in the fantasy playoffs. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2:They do, they're very favorable, and that's really nice for first week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's beautiful man. Tank Dell, dare I say, early on here, could he be a league winner? That's possible, man, that's very possible. Yeah, oh yeah, all right, I love it, man, I love it. Khalil shook here. Okay, great game three catches, 115 yards, touchdown, bomb touchdown, 21 points. We talked about Gabe Davis. How you just you can't, you can't play Gabe Davis. I mean the goose egg again. I mean what are you gonna do? He's, he's, he's out there doing cardio, he's a great blocker. Great job for James. Go too bad, too bad. It doesn't help you. And fantasy at all. It's Khalil Shakir. Is he fantasy relevant or is it just kind of a dart throw? It feels like a dart throw to me.
Speaker 2:It's a dart throw. It's a dart throw, but it's like one of those to where you you're kind of like opening up one eye and kind of throwing it, like that. You know, it's kind of like you're fucked up and I had too many beers and you're staring around and it's like I'm gonna throw it and you kind of might get it. That's Khalil Shakir, and I say that because, john, the last five weeks, 12.2, 7.7, 2.9, 21 so I mean, it's not, it's not terrible, it's not terrible, but it's not good. So it's kind of like it's a little bit better than boom bus, but it's not really that much better. So, yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 1:All right, I'll take that into consideration. Here's two guys here. I want to see if you can just number one, fill us in and who the fuck these guys are number one and give us an idea of these. Are guys that we need to have on our teams and can play. Josh Oliver, four for four, 47 yards and a touchdown 13 points. Stone smart, okay, stone smart. Hippie parents love that. One catch 51 yards and a touchdown 13 points. Obviously these guys just kind of the stars and the moons aligned and caught some fire. Here are these the guys that all that you can do anything with.
Speaker 2:Actually Josh Oliver is interesting. So, guys, for those of you who don't know, josh Oliver was the guy from Baltimore who was back up with that of it was actually Hayden Hurst and that of Mark Andrews and he was a part of that. He worked a little bit as a fullback as well and but mostly what played at the tight end spot very serviceable guy ended up getting signed to go to the Minnesota Vikings. 100% not a guy you can start, no question about it. You do not start him because TJ Hawkinson, his every bit and piece of the man, he is him, he's the himmy award. Tj Hawkinson, john stone, smart, zero, zero percent chance. You fire up mr Boulder over there, right? So you just don't do it right. It's because Gerald Everett was out. I've drawn a blank on the backup. It begins with a P Per Purdom or something like that. I, your paint, but whatever, I can't even pronounce it right at this point. They're back in what was it?
Speaker 1:Are you talking about the, the Chargers? Yeah, yeah, donald Parham.
Speaker 2:Parham. Thank you, parham. Yeah, so he is the guy Stone smart. Had won one play, one catch, 51 yards and it's touchdown. Baby, you light me like.
Speaker 1:I feel like in this outfit, I'm in Arizona, I'm in the mountains, I'm in the red rocks. That that's like the persona I'm taking on right now stone, smart, stone. Like, hey, man, I don't good, I'm smart, stone, smart, I'm stone, stone, you're, you're stoned. All right, that's, that's what you are. All right, man, let's check out these Thursday games. We got Thanksgiving games here. We got turkey games. Oh yeah, we got to love our Detroit Lions and our Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving, man, all right. So the first game, the early game, thanksgiving, we got Green Bay at Detroit. Detroit's favored by seven and a half. The over unders 45 and a half. These Detroit Lions are on fire, man, we saw an amazing comeback, really the first bad game we've seen. Jer goff have, yeah, and ended up coming cross and and coming through Jameer Gibbs once again. Goddamn beast. They found a balance, I think now, and I think David Montgomery being out like that and giving Jameer Gibbs Just the chance and the rock, now they're like oh shit, we've got two really good running backs. I think they found a way to use them both and have them both deliver. Those guys were firing up, obviously.
Speaker 1:Jared goff I'm in Rossane, bronco. Can we talk about him for a second how good he is really. He's Excellent. He is a young. I heard somebody compare him earlier today and I thought it was just. No, it was brilliant. He's a young Kenan Allen. Mmm, he's a young Kenan Allen. How good is that? He's not flying down the field. He's not typically gonna catch bombs, so good he's catching the intermediate catches, getting him in space. He's excellent man you, I'm in Rossane Brown. Double digits every single game and fantasy this year, every single one.
Speaker 2:That's unbelievable, that's almost impossible actually.
Speaker 1:AJ Brown had one point last night or on Monday night. Aj Brown, I'm in Rossane Brown, double digits every goddamn week. Yeah, I'm putting the bank Okay, so we're starting all those guys. Anybody else on the Lions that you think may have some? The sam la port has had some down weeks here. I mean, is this a guy that you want to roll out in this team?
Speaker 2:For me, john, yeah, for me, I'm definitely firing up sam la port up. It's just one of those guys that I'm willing to put my neck out. And Also, with the Titan landscape, it's really depleted. I mean, you see, right, mark Andrews down, travis Kelsie's play level is down. You also have Darren Waller out. You eat like it's just across the board, man, like Random guys are popping off. I mean Luke Musgrave, right, who is a very promising, another very promising rookie is now down. So for me, man, absolutely I'm firing up sam la port. I know his floor. His floor, john, is roughly six points in fppr. I'm okay with that. I'll take that from a tight end and if it's even, you know, in be in that realm, I don't need 15 points from them and expect that every week. However, if it happens, it's great. So for me, I'm absolutely firing up sam la port, okay excellent.
Speaker 1:Let's anybody else in the Lions that you're thinking about here? No, it makes sense.
Speaker 2:No, not at this point in time, no all right.
Speaker 1:What about the Packers? This is more, much, much more difficult here. The the one bright spot that I think they have Place right into the teeth of this Lions defense with their running game. And man, that sounds rough to me. I mean, we talked about AJ dealing a little bit, but what do you think about the screen Bay offense? What are we starting here?
Speaker 2:John, there's one guy that I'm like ready to say yeah, we're gonna fire him up, and it's Jaden Reed. It is another rookie and the reason being is because they have found out, they have found a way to not only get him involved in the passing game, which he's Jordan Love seems to be looking at him more often than Christian Watson, romeo dubs but kind of across the board, and so what he's done, john, and I'm just looking at some of the stats here. Let's just look at the last since bi week right. Week six when was there? Bi week, week seven he had three receptions, 21 yards and a touchdown. He ended up having what was that? Almost 10 points.
Speaker 2:Week eight he had four receptions, 83 yards, ended up having 10.3 points against the Rams. He had 5.5 points. So he had 21 yards rushing. He ended up having 19 yards receiving and three receptions. And then here is where he starts getting involved. Last week, against Pittsburgh, he had five receptions, 84 yards and a receiving touchdown. And this past week, john was very much so more rushing. He ended up having three carries for 46 yards rushing. He had four receptions for 46 yards receiving and he also had a rushing touchdown.
Speaker 2:So, john, what I'm saying is they are now utilizing this guy because, from a rushing perspective, now that Aaron Jones is down, and they're using him, like what they did with me, cole Hardman, at the chiefs in these sweep routes, right, and so that's why this guy is so fucking fascinating to me, because it almost neutralizes some of the best part of that at the Denver or the Detroit defense which, to your point, is gonna be between the tackles. So that's why this guy, man, outside of the targets and, yeah, he's not gonna have potentially a hundred points he's not a tank, dell, right, that's not what we're talking about but he has serious upside due to you, due to his utility. So for me, man, that's why I, like Jaden, read this week in a big game on a national, televised on Thanksgiving, he feels like a better version of Cadarius Tony to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, yes, yeah, it's a great call.
Speaker 1:Okay, I was gonna say Debo Samuel, but no. Debo's just he's his own. He's his own piece. Yeah, it's too big. I like that call man. What about Jordan love? How you thinking of me? Are you thinking about him in this game? He's gonna have to throw the ball. Detroit's gonna score.
Speaker 2:He's gonna have to throw the ball. He has to throw the ball, john. And Jordan love has played pretty darn well over the last two weeks played against the tough defense in Pittsburgh, 21 points, played against the Chargers not as good of a defense, right, but still at 20 points. So for me, man, I mean I look back to. You know what he did against the last time they played Detroit. He ended up having 15 points right. He ended up throwing for 246 yards. He had one rushing touchdown, one passing touchdown. The problem was Detroit got him. Aiden Hutchinson wrecked his ass. He ended up having five sacks. So you know, it's one of those things to where I see him being around floor John, absolute floor, 12 points. I see his ceiling being around that of 22. So that's where I kind of feel Jordan love for this week as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you could play him this week. I think he's maybe a sneaky streamer this week. I really do, because I do think that they're they're definitely gonna be in a position where they're gonna have to throw the ball and he's got the support to do it. I mean, christian Watson finally scored a touchdown. We finally got to see him in the red zone, which I dropped him last week. We talked about it, I had to do, and he gets rid of somebody, yeah, and like he said, yeah, jaden Reed really coming on. He still have Romeo dubs in there. He got the end zone as well last week.
Speaker 1:So I think that you know if Musgrave can play I don't know what his status looks like, but if he can't, he's got the tools and the weapons to be able to do it. So I think prime time game I guess you can call it prime time, it's thanks, yeah game. I think Jordan love is a sneaky, sneaky start this week, and we talked about Dylan already. Dylan is, yes, you can start him. He's a starting running back, but Don't expect a whole yet lot here.
Speaker 2:It's tough. It's a tough start. Yeah, he's a starting court running back yeah okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1:All right, let's move on to the second game here on Thanksgiving. We've got the Washington Manders, the commanders at the Dallas Cowboys Whoo, favored by 11. Here are the Cowboys 48 and a half over under. All right, I think we know what's up with Dallas. I think we're is there. I mean, is there anybody? We're not starting for Dallas at this point, right now.
Speaker 2:No, I mean honestly, people are firing up Michael Gallup and I can't blame them either. So literally fire him up, fire him up, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree, Commanders. What are we doing here? This is gonna be rough.
Speaker 2:This is. I mean, the commanders just got their shit pushed by the Giants. Okay, now they're going to Dallas. This is not gonna be good, john. The only the only one that I could see being somewhat interesting in my personal opinion. I think one of the receivers are gonna have a decent game. Don't know which one one of them are gonna be serviceable, right? I actually am still Interested to see Brian Robinson, and I say that I think he's gonna get destroyed on the ground.
Speaker 2:I think it's gonna be his receiving he dude with Antonio Gibson out. He's been going crazy, man, from a reception perspective, so I really think that that could provide a nice floor. I'm not saying, guys, a 20 point game for Brian Robinson, but what I'm saying is, is it in a PPR or something like that, full point per reception? I absolutely could see him being a flex piece here, because the managers are gonna be down. They're gonna be super pressured, with Michael Parsons coming off the edge, so they're gonna have to get rid of the ball very, very quickly, which means that it could be checked down, charlie time all fucking day. They did it against the Giants, john. I can't even imagine what they're gonna do with that of the against Dallas. That's why I know it sounds crazy, but I'm not super high on it. But I'm interested to see what Brian Robinson does from a receiving perspective.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, I can't argue with you. You had him as a start of the week last week. He was on the cover of our episode last week and he delivered, man, I mean did 16 points and a half PPR. What's beautiful about Brian Robinson? You're absolutely right. These last two weeks without Antonio Gibson, six catches on six targets. Last week, seven catches on nine targets. Now, if he can get nine targets out of the backfield from a quarterback who is serviceable, who is going to have to get rid of the ball quickly because of this pass rush, it could be pretty sneaky. You're right. He could also get shut down to absolutely nothing but 20 points. Yeah, it's absolutely possible, but I do like it with the running back landscape the way it is. You've got him as your RB two, rb three. I think you can play him this week. I like that. What about Sam Howell? How you feeling about him? You gonna be howling at the moon or no man, I mean.
Speaker 2:I think that what he's done this year has been nothing short of incredible. He's absolutely played to a top tier level top 12 quarterback in my eyes For sure. This is not by any way, shape or form the defense that I want to be playing against right now. After that showing against the Giants, you could lean on him because you know the game script is going to be so bad. The problem is is with if you're, if your league takes away points for sacks and he had five sacks against him for the Giants I can't even imagine what's going to happen against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1:Oh God, man, when you put it that way, that sounds really rough. She says, OK, sounds good, We'll move on from the commanders here. Man, I feel bad for Sam Howell right now. All right, let's look at the Thursday night game. All right, let's go, let's get a little CMC on Thanksgiving. I like that.
Speaker 1:We've got the 49ers at the Seattle Seahawks 49ers are favored by only seven. That's actually interesting there and that's really really interesting. Over under a forty three and a half, not looking at a ton and ton of scoring here. This, this one's difficult. This one's. This is a difficult match up here. Talk about the 49ers. Are you starting everybody? Basically for the 49ers? I mean you start everybody, right?
Speaker 1:Brandon I Yook has been nothing short of excellent and just gorgeous. He's wonderful. Run, run, run, run, run, throw the ball deep, play action. Brandon I Yook. 50 yards every goddamn time yeah, I mean every single time. It's great. Ok, everybody's got those guys. They're firing them up anyway. Seattle this is where things get difficult. Seattle Seahawks you got a banged up Geno Smith saying he's either saying it's looking like he's going to play, it is still questionable. It's in a day he's going to be banged up going against the San Francisco defense. You've got Zach Charbonnet, rookie, running back. He's going to be carrying the load against this defense. Tyler Lock, it's been banged up. What are we doing with these Seattle assets, man? We just talked about earlier how difficult this schedule is. And they've got did we say it's 49ers, Dallas, 49ers back Yep, Three games in a row. Ok, what do we do here, man? Give us some advice. I got these players.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, john, you got to fire up DK. You have to. He's strong enough, he's fast enough, he can handle the coverage that Jimmy Ward will probably be draping all over him. He can handle it. On top of it, the 49ers starting superstar safety is now out right With an ACL tear. So that is not good. And what would she? Even crazier if you guys are those listening and watching you get a chance. Look at Rashad White. Put the move on this safety and he tore his ACL because of it. It was, it was insane, it was insane.
Speaker 2:So, and I love this guy and I'm drawing a blank on his name he's the dude with the long hair, he's the Hawaiian or Pacific Asian dude Incredible, incredible, incredible. But I definitely think you can start up DK Metcalf, I think, and I think one of the other two are going to pop, and I mean pop, I mean like seven to 10 points Jackson Smith and jig buzz Very interesting, because if they start getting pressured very quickly, geno Smith's going to not be throwing the ball deep. Or if Geno Smith is hurt, drew Locke. So Drew Locke comes in. John, medium routes, short routes, game manager, that's where Jackson Smith and jig book could thrive against this team and, in comparison, tyler Locke.
Speaker 2:What we've seen is the guy that's taken the you know the medium and deep routes and is always just figuring out a way how to catch the ball and make a move and keep the sticks moving. So one of the other two are going to pop. I'm relying on DK for a high floor, right, that that's why I'm starting DK. One of the others are going to be a high ceiling. Not really sure what it is, or they both could be a bust, but I like one of them to also be a compliment to DK.
Speaker 1:I like you really got me thinking there about JSN. With this upcoming schedule I think that you could get him for pretty much nothing from somebody, yeah, but I think it might be interesting because they do have the Niners Cowboys Niners back to back here in these next three games. You might be, you might be onto something there that the slot player is kind of the guy who could eat in that. Good, you know, against those defenses, getting rid of the ball quickly, avoiding the pass rush, getting a guy into space, that's really interesting, man, I might make a little. Put some feelers out there and just see if I could throw, you know, JSN on my bench this week for, you know, for peanuts hopefully. And if he does do that in this game, then that bodes well for the next two and coming moving forward that they're going to have to do that with Gino. So I like that man. I could call there Anybody else on this Seattle team or this game that you think we should look at. No, no.
Speaker 1:I don't OK all right, let's look at the. What do we have here? The Friday game Whoa, black Friday, holy shit. Well, they couldn't get a team that has black colors for Black Friday.
Speaker 2:I know that was cool.
Speaker 1:That's like I'm a marketing guy, I'm an advertising guy, just that's the stuff I see. It couldn't be in the Raiders. They could have a blackout on Black Friday in the stadium, or the Ravens that would have been cool. The Ravens.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, all right. Anyway, the Dolphins Miami Dolphins at the New York Jets Dolphins are favored by 10 in this round, in this match here, 41 point over under. I think they're projecting all of those points to go from the dolphins. All right, man. Well, let's let's talk about it here Dolphins, the Jets, you got the Dolphins, which is a very cool, exciting offense playing a very exciting defense and zero offense. So what do we think is going to happen here, man? What's going on with the dolphins?
Speaker 2:I mean, john, this is not going to be. In my personal opinion, I think, early on, the Jets defense is going to keep them somewhat at bay. I mean, I think Tyree's still going to be, you know, all out and everything. But I'm telling you, man, this Jets defense is top tier, top class. The problem is they're going to be on the field all day. So look at the second half, look towards the second half of the game, to where we start seeing the dolphins begin to pull away, because obviously you're starting up Jaylin Waddle, or Jaylin Waddle, you're starting up Tyree Kill. You're starting up, right, rahim Mostert If he's playing, or, you know, and Devon H-Handman that's a 50-50, you're going to have to monitor that throughout the week. If he ends up playing on Friday, yeah, you probably want to fire him up as well. But yeah, man, I mean it's going to be. This should be a pretty badass beating for sure.
Speaker 1:For sure? Yeah, it seems like it. Is there anybody except for Breece Hall that you're willing to start on the Jets?
Speaker 2:No, man, I mean other than Breece. Actually Tyler Conklin could be really interesting as well for a streaming tight end Guys with what Tim Boyle has shown when he played at Detroit he actually did some good work with the tight ends, actually two TJ Hawkinson when he was there years ago. So for me, man, I mean if there's one other guy it would maybe be that of Tyler Conklin. I could see him having four receptions on six targets for like 45 yards or something like that.
Speaker 1:My start of the week. For the Jets, this week has been their highest score all year and that's Greg Zurline the kicker, Greg the leg baby. Hey, this is the first year at Fantasy that I think I have not streamed a kicker. I have literally started Greg Zurline every single week. I'm like, oh good, the Jets got nine points Sick, Three field goals, because that's exactly what it is, and they're long field goals because they can't get anywhere near the goddamn end zone. You know he's been my best player in fantasy all year. That's the best.
Speaker 2:That's why I built with the Browns kicker, dustin Hopkins. It just feels like, hey, bring it on, baby, set it and forget it, you know bring it on.
Speaker 1:We got a great defense with a really bad offense.
Speaker 2:Give me the kicker and John real quick too, before we, before we shift guys, a bet that really could be interesting right To dive into is look at the T's we could look at and end up doing Dallas minus five and the 49ers minus one. Oh my God, Dallas minus five against the commanders at home and 49ers minus one at Seattle, with a banged up Geno Smith, no, Kenneth Walker Jr and walking out in a must win game for the NFC. Just saying that could be interesting.
Speaker 1:Just frank it up. That's frank it up, baby, you got to break it up baby, frank it up, frank it up, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's frank it up, man, that's, that's a cheat code. Bet right, there is what that is that's a cheat code bet Slap 50 on it, baby. All right, man, let's look at some hit it's and quit it's for the Sunday games, baby. All right, frankie, let's talk about your tier one, 12 to 16 team leagues. Who are the guys that are your top starts this week? Man, lay it out for me.
Speaker 2:So John, the number one guy that I'm checking out again, as long as he's healthy, everything came back and tested good on his back and everything like that. I'm rocking out and rolling with Ramon Dres Stevenson at the New York Giants Guys, what Ramon Dres Stevenson has done over the last three, four weeks has been incredible. He's been in double digits every week but one. In the last four weeks he's put up 15 points against that at the Vegas Raiders. Buffalo, he put up 11.5. Miami, he put up six but bet a huge bounce back and put up 22.9 against Washington and then ended up finishing off 11.7 points against that of the Colts.
Speaker 2:And so walking into a bio week, coming out healthy, john, with the turmoil that's happening with Mac Jones and Blake Zappi and all this other bullshit going on with you know the fuck Bill Belichick is even going to be here, who knows? Well, you know what. I do know they're going to hand the ball off to that of Ramon Dres Stevenson. They might even do a little bit of tap dancing with him on the sidelines by passing them a little bit of a routes out there. So I really like Ramon Dres Stevenson this week against that of the Giants.
Speaker 1:The most rushing attempts was the last game they played, week 10 versus Indianapolis. 20 rushing attempts, that's the most he's had all season. I think they're going to move more towards running the ball. You know, getting him these targets out of the backfield in the past, yeah, I mean the past five weeks six targets, six, four, six, five. Keep that coming, keep that coming, keep giving him the targets. Get him six targets. Get him, you know, 15 to 20 carries. That's the remandry we all drafted and hoped for. It just took us quite a while to get there. But they know the situation, they know. They know their fuck was quarterback right now. So they're going to have to lean on their most talented players. Remandry is that guy. You know I love it, man.
Speaker 1:Great start against the Giants next week, against the Chargers. Also a very good lineup for a matchup for Remandry at Pittsburgh. You can run on Pittsburgh. Yes, it's a very good defense, but you can run on them. So Remandry does have a good matchup there. I mean, really, his schedule. You know, leaving here, giants, chargers, steelers, kansas City tough one, tough one to run against, for sure. But then you're ending the year with Denver and Buffalo. You can run on these teams, man, yeah, you can run on these teams. And not only that, even I think Remandry is getting to a place now where he's almost game script proof because of his role in the offense, because they have to throw to him as well, so he doesn't leave the field, really when they have to throw the ball. So, yeah, I actually like Remandry, I think, to close strong for the season this year. Love it.
Speaker 2:John. Number two we're staying in the flames here, man, with Jaylen Warren. I mean it's impossible not to start him with the production. John, the biggest flaw that the Steelers did last week. He had nine carries Okay, he had nine carries for 129 yards in a touchdown. Why in the living hell did Matt Canada get away from feeding him the ball? Jaylen Warren, we did not. The Browns did not have an answer for this guy he had. They've had an answer for everybody else in the entire NFL, pretty much the entire year. They couldn't figure this guy out. He was that good. And so for me, man, him going into Cincinnati. Brand new OC, brand new. Look, they're pissed off as all shit. They're walking into another divisional game. No, joe Burrow, I think they're going to rely on Jaylen Warren, really heavy, as well as that of a bit of Najee Harris. But for me, man, fire up Jaylen Warren and enjoy the reward.
Speaker 1:Jaylen Warren's last three games against very good running defenses. We're talking Tennessee, green Bay, cleveland. These are all very good rushing defenses. He was the running back 15, running back seven, running back two. He's the running back 23 on the season. Ramon Dresden running back 24 on the season. That's where we're at with him right now. He's almost a must start. He's a very, very startable piece at this point. I love it, man. At Cincinnati, arizona, new England, indy, cincinnati, seattle. That's how, jaylen Warren and your fantasy season. That's good, that's nice, that's very, very nice.
Speaker 2:John, what's interesting, I'm going to go with the running back number 22 on the year here. So we just did 23. We did 24. We got to get in some 22. Deuce, deuce. I'm not taking a deuce on this guy, I'm going to go. Jerome Ford, baby, we're going to go with the Browns.
Speaker 2:Jerome Ford at Denver. Jerome Ford man, the last three weeks has had double digit points in FPPR every single week against Seattle. That was his only quote, unquote bust over the last five weeks because he ended up getting banged up. Before that against the Colts, shawnee at 18. Before that against the San Francisco 49ers, he's still at 10. So for me, man going into a Denver defense that, yes, has improved, absolutely has improved, but more so on the passing a defense than it has been from the rushing defense. And on top of that, John DTR at the helm is going to need some help, right, it just is what it is. So I see some check downs because DTR threw a fuckload of screens last week, right, and on top of it, they're going to leverage the running backs that they have. It's going to be Ford. It's going to be a heavy dose of hunt. I like Ford this week fires ass up.
Speaker 1:I love it, man, zero argument. Let's show Jerome Ford moving forward. Also, wonderful schedule, movement, beautiful fantasy, beautiful schedule here at Denver, rams, jacksonville, chicago, houston, and then your Super Bowl will be the Jets. That one will be tough, that will be tough, yeah, I mean leading up to that. Fantastic man, fantastic.
Speaker 2:John, I'm going to go with your boy here, the last one for the tier two or tier one, excuse me, the 12 to 16 man I'm going to go with. She writes where she writes is certainly a risk compared to the other guys. But, guys, here's the reason that I like Rishi Rice is that he has had outside of in the last four games he's had six targets, five targets, two targets and then he ended up having five again, john, he's had 72 yards, 60 yards, 56 yards, 17 and 42. He's absolutely the go to guy outside of that of Travis Kelsey, now Kaderius, tony's starting to get involved a little bit more and things like that. But it truly is Rishi Rice On top of it man with his schedule.
Speaker 2:Right, they're playing Vegas right now and so Vegas actually had Max Crosby is quietly, very quietly, right up there with Miles Garrett and right up there with TJ Watt for defensive player of the year. That is how good this dude has been playing. He doesn't have as many sacks Actually, I believe he's tied with Miles Garrett on sacks but he has more pressures, he has more tackles for losses, things like that. So when you have Patrick Mahomes is playing against this type of dude, quick routes, quick routes, and that's what Rishi Rice does very well. So for me, man, I like him this week building off of a big game against that affiliate. They're going to be pissed off going against the rival. I see Patrick Mahomes throwing up 300 yards this week and Rishi Rice being a part of that.
Speaker 1:I love that man. I see Rishi Rice and Justin Watson really emerging out of this offense. They're getting targeted by Patrick Mahomes and you had oh my God, I was crying, laughing the MBS, the MBS. He finally gets off the treadmill and gets a target and he's probably like hey man, I've been sprinting towards the end zone in the past 10 plays and I think I'm open. Throw someone and just off the tips, off the fingertips. Man, that's brutal, it's a losing game. You lost the game. You lose the game, I know. Now they're like you know what? Get your ass back on that treadmill. You're going to be running, running routes and doing cardio next week. That's right. That's, that's brutal, man. All right, let's get to your tier. Two guys here, your eight to 10 man leagues. Who are the guys you like here, buddy?
Speaker 2:John, the first guy's risky. I'm going to outright say this is not a smash play, this is something that I'm just feeling. Calvin Ridley, yeah right, this is something. Yeah, god too soon. Fuck me. Right, dude, it's Derek Henry, it's King Henry. Okay, this is a risk and I'm going to outright say it. But here's the thing they're playing against Carolina, all right. So the last few weeks they played against Tampa Bay tough D to run against and Jacksonville. You know, yeah, you had a shit week, it was what it was. This week is bounce back. They were at Tampa Bay, they were at Jacksonville. Now Carolina is coming to them, they're back home, and so Will Leviss is going to be able to throw that ball pretty damn well to D hop and others, especially against Carolina. But, more importantly, derek Henry has prime availability to destroy the Carolina Panthers this week. So again, it is a risk. I'm telling you I'm going to start Derek Henry and I'm not recommending 100% you should, but I'm telling you it's a very good matchup for him to do so.
Speaker 1:No, I think you have to start Derek Henry. I mean, we're talking about the Carolina Panthers here. Man, yeah, the first rush defense that's in the league, I think that's. That's a no brainer. Where you really have to worry about Derek Henry is based on game script. Yeah, Because once the moment they're down at all, I think he's going to disappear. Yeah, I think he's just gone. But pay attention to that. I do want to bring up we're going to talk about in the next segment, but we're talking about Derek Henry here. He might as well talk about him right now.
Speaker 1:The schedule for the playoffs does look nice. It does look nice. Yeah, they've got Houston, seattle, houston, now Houston's been. That's a team that makes me a little nervous. Yes, he'd look at it and go, oh my God, smash schedule. He always destroys these guys. It could be interesting. I mean, houston could come out, throw the ball and go up top early in those gaps. So it's a little bit scary. I had it on my great playoff schedules, but as I've been looking at that and thinking about it more, it makes me a little nervous that he could get game scripted out and just completely wasted there. So it's be wary of that. All right, who else you got Frank?
Speaker 2:John, we're going to go with Isaiah Petitko against that of the Las Vegas Raiders. Dude is just running like an absolute nut job in a madhouse. He looks great, he looks awesome. And you know what's crazy to me, john, is the game last night, right, because we record on Tuesday for this specific episode, didn't we? But the Monday night game when they played against the Eagles. That does not reflect his fantasy, right? He only had 9.6 points and fantasy and half PPR, john. He had 19 carries for 89 yards and actually could have had a touchdown or maybe two. Right, they were on the goal line a few times. They ended up deciding to pass the ball. It is what it is. It's Patrick Mahomes. Isaiah Pichaco looks amazing. So for me, man running against this of the Vegas team, right, I think that this could be a big, big week, right, I think I could see him. 70 yards at touchdown, three receptions out of the backfield type of thing getting you double digits.
Speaker 2:So I like Isaiah Pichaco this week, love him as well man, john, number three here on the tier one, eight to 10 man league, right, so right, where we're playing with top tier talent everywhere. John, I'm going to actually go with Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon has been really tough all year, because it's been good, it's been bad, it's been in between. And then the last few weeks, man, ever since the bye week, 18.5, 15.3, 11.5, 18.5 against the Baltimore Ravens. Right, and we're talking. That was the San Francisco 49ers, the Buffalo Bills, the Houston Texans and the Baltimore Ravens. That's not a joke.
Speaker 2:And so now he's playing the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, no, no, joe Burrow, guess who they're going to be relying on? It's going to be Joe Mixon. And guess who they're going to be able to avoid is TJ Watt and Alex, alex Heismith on the outsides. So I see Joe Mixon running straight up the gut, right off the tackle, right off the guard, many, many times against the, against the Pittsburgh Steelers. That is going to be their success to win the game. Therefore, I'm rolling with Joe Mixon this week, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and I'm sorry we didn't get to. It was kind of old news that happened on the Thursday game. We didn't talk about, you know, joe Burrow being out for the season or Mark Andrews being, you know, being banged up right now. But yeah, I mean with that, with the loss of Joe Burrow, they have to lean heavily on Joe Mixon. The only way that they're going to have a play, action, be able to get the ball out safely, you know, to some of these guys, to Jamar Chase, you know, and some of these guys is by utilizing and having the defense respect the run, utilizing Joe Mixon. I love it, fire him up.
Speaker 2:So Joe Mixon, the last one I'm actually going to shift gears a bit and again, eight to 10 man league, right, there could be. You might have Mark Andrews, you might have had, you know, a couple of the other tight ends, that maybe the Darren Waller that's been banged up, right, et cetera. Zach or Zach Ertz, right, things along those lines. Guys, I'm saying, fire up Dalton Schultz. You're firing him up this week against that of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags have absolutely a decent defense here. So it's going to be tough sledding.
Speaker 2:But where I think that this could be beneficial, john is he is the cozy blanket for CJ Stroud. He's looking at him heavily in the red zone. And John, I mean last week alone he ended up having 10.2 points. Again, only two receptions, only 32 yards. He's rolling with him from a touchdown. He got a touchdown there. And it's what's interesting, john, I'm just looking at this over the last few weeks, right, if we look at one, two, three, four, five, six, seven weeks, right, the last seven weeks, not including the bi-week, he has scored in five of them. Five of them, john. He's also had 10 targets. He's had seven targets, five targets, 11 targets, six targets. The dude is a target machine If you are at risk or low on the tight end spectrum. Knowing that this is a shorter, smaller league, knowing that there's players all over the place, trade four candidate, huge, huge trade four candidate for Dalton Schultz, and it's certainly a start as well.
Speaker 1:I love it. Man, dalton Schultz has been an absolute beast this year. The way tight ends have been. You find a guy like Dalton Schultz, it's gold. You're like oh, so thankful. Oh, thank God I don't have to deal with tight end this year. It's great. Yeah, he's been good man. Anything else on your starts and sits oh, we got your sits baby, got to do the sits baby, we got the sits. Tell me who you don't like this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, John, first and foremost Givante Williams and any other running back on that Denver Broncos defense against that of the Cleveland Browns. I don't want to see him. And here's the other thing. I think they're going to be down. I could see them being down. Game script is going to be away from the running back situation. Givante Williams is not going to be a guy that's catching the balls a lot out of the backfield. For me, I'm sitting. Givante Williams this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be tough to roll out any Broncos this week, man for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, john, the next guy actually I'm going to lump two in together here Justice Hill at the Chargers. I think we all can move past Justice Hill at this point. I had a couple of people ask me hey, is this a guy that I can still start or maybe flex out? I'm going to tell you right now the answer is a hell. No, do not do it at this point in time. You got to wait to see. If Keaton Mitchell or Gus Edwards ends up getting hurt At that point in time, then yes, but until that happens, no, gus Edwards is dominating, keaton Mitchell's the number two.
Speaker 2:The second guy, john, that I mentioned, that I was going to loop in or lump in together, is Gabe Davis at Philly. This guy is 100%, boom and bust, 100%. There's no in between with this cat For me. I am not willing to risk, against a good Philly defense, that of rolling out Gabe Davis and what could be a must start week for many people, including myself. I have Gabe Davis, I've played this fucking game all year with him and I'm done playing this game. I am sitting Gabe Davis this week, okay.
Speaker 1:Do you mean bust, boom, bust, boom, boom, bust, bust, boom, bust, bust, bust?
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, that's exactly it, and especially with the emergence of Kincaid and Cleel Shakur. Right, yeah, man, it's getting worse and worse by the week. Yeah, it is Now John. There's one other guy that I had on here and I don't know if he's a true sit. Okay, I want your opinion on this. I have him as a watch out and I'll tell you who it is. It's Josh Jacobs against the chiefs. Okay, Actually, I'm a Josh Jacobs fan man. You know this. I'm a big Josh Jacobs guy. The problem is, john, is the last two weeks he's had 11.7 points and a half PPR, 5.6 points against that of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2:Now you are, you are at home against the chiefs, and the reason why I'm saying I am not high on him, chris Jones. That's the first reason. The second reason is Aiden O'Connell Love the kid. He's a badass. I think he's a baller. He's not there yet. He's not good enough yet to where people are fearing his arm. It's not CJ, strapped Right.
Speaker 2:And so for me, man, that chief's defense is going to slowly start going like this they can play one-on-one on the outside with Snead. We saw what Snead did to AJ Brown. Who do you think is going to be lined up against the Bonte Adams? Okay. So then now you're going to have, right, somebody over top of Myers, so that leaves open maybe the tight end and Michael Mayer, maybe Josh Jacobs, but again, starting Aiden O'Connell against this defense, I don't like it. And so for me, man Eric, excuse me starting Josh Jacobs against this defense with Aiden O'Connell at the helm is what I meant to say is something that I am not really high on. So for me, I'm not actually sure if it's a pure sit, but I'm saying it's a watch out because it's uncomfortable. What do you think?
Speaker 1:I'm with you on that. I mean, we've got our buddy on YouTube, you know. Shout out, is it Gabriel? I think it is. Yeah, shout out to the guy who's always asking us to, you know, to start sit decisions and they're tough, they're very hard. So we appreciate that. But I know Josh Jacobs is one of his guys. He's got a handful of studs every week. He asks us you know which of these studs do I sit? This guy needs to listen to this because I think you're right on that man.
Speaker 1:The other reason is that this game could get out of hand very fast, very quick Divisional game. This is a team that got beat up, you know, by a rematch of the Super Bowl last year by the Philly team. They seem vulnerable in the AFC right now with some teams coming up. This team's going to come out and make a statement and I think they're going to make a big example of this Raiders defense and I don't think it's going to leave a lot of opportunity for Josh Jacobs. I really don't. They're going to get some dump offs early, but they're going to have to throw the ball. If they're not given Devontae Adams 25 targets, I don't think they have a chance in this game so I like it. Man, I'm with you 100 percent on that, especially when you can't do. You can't do that against Miami.
Speaker 1:Same situation, right Getting beat. Josh Jacobs is just kind of. He's just ruled out of the game because of you know the game script. You know with the Jets. That was a great defense. He ran the ball 27 times. That's crazy. But he's not going to get that option against Casey. I think it is a very good defense that is going to find ways to bottle them up. Yeah, good call, man. All right, any other sits for us brother.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm wrapping up the hit it's and quit it's baby.
Speaker 1:That's it. I love it, man. I think that's what I think we're good for today. Frankie, you know we've got Love it. We've got some things we're going to get with you guys for next week. Stay tuned. Next week we're going to be really focusing on the schedules for the playoffs in the end of the season. We're going to look and we're going to give you some players that have great schedules moving forward. We're going to look at some players, some defenses, that you should be looking at for the playoffs. Don't forget about that. You got to plan ahead for that. Sometimes You're one of those teams you might have the first round by. Plan out your defenses, you know, pick up an extra one, put it on there. We'll talk about some of the teams that have great matchups there and who you should be looking at quarterback streaming in the playoffs, tight end streaming in the play. I love this time of year, man. This is where. Throw everything out. What have you done for me lately? Totally. You know what I'm saying.
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