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What happens when the New York Jets shake up their front office just as the fantasy football playoffs loom? Discover the implications of Joe Douglas' firing and Aaron Rodgers' ongoing struggles as we gear up for Week 12. We'll navigate the chaos of bye weeks by uncovering the top streaming quarterbacks and defenses to keep your fantasy team thriving. Get the latest injury updates, with Brock Purdy's shoulder concerns and a potential game-changer in rookie running back Jonathan Brooks for the Carolina Panthers. Plus, unravel the New York Giants' curious quarterback decision-making, which could be setting the stage for a major draft move.
As we march towards the fantasy playoffs, strategic trade insights become crucial. We'll analyze whether holding onto Malik Nabers is a smart play and assess how Isaiah Pacheco's health could make or break the Kansas City Chiefs' lineup. Sharpen your trade tactics with advice on managing player swaps involving Kareem Hunt. We'll also highlight quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield, Bo Nix, and Justin Herbert who could be the ticket to playoff success with their prime matchups. Moreover, our defense recommendations will arm you with the knowledge to plan your playoff path to victory, spotlighting teams like the Arizona Cardinals and Jacksonville Jaguars as potential game-changers.
Prepare for a rollercoaster of start/sit recommendations as we size up player prospects from the Steelers-Browns showdown while addressing the fan discontent brewing in Cleveland. We'll share our admiration for the ever-resilient Mike Tomlin and his knack for keeping the Steelers competitive. Looking forward to Week 13, our spotlight shines on Jauan Jennings, Brian Robinson Jr., and Ladd McConkie as must-starts, while advising caution with Aaron Jones. With this jam-packed episode, you'll gain the edge needed to master fantasy football chaos and claim victory in your league.
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All right, guys, today we are giving you insight into week 12. And what does that mean? We're hitting you with the top streaming quarterbacks to get you ready for your playoffs, get ready for some top streaming defenses and, of course, we're going to be nailing down our hits and quits. And don't forget, check us out across all social media platforms on YouTube, facebook, instagram, x and more. We love you, guys. Let's go.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, all right, welcome to the show. This is the Frankly Fantasy Football Podcast. We are your hosts, Frankie and Johnny. Welcome in, frankie. We are getting out of week 11, and we're heading into week 12. You ready for week 12? Are you freaking out so ready?
Speaker 1:I'm freaking out of excitement, John. That's what I'm freaking out for. I'm excited as a guy on Christmas morning, oh wow.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going somewhere with that. God damn it, I missed it. You really didn't get there. Try again. Try again later. All right, ready. I'm excited like a schoolboy on Christmas morning.
Speaker 1:That's also not very good. We'll figure that one out, but I'm excited, john.
Speaker 2:I'm as happy as a little girl. What was the?
Speaker 1:Austin Powers. It's like the old Starburst commercial, Like berries and cream.
Speaker 2:This episode brought to you by berries and cream Starburst. Thank you so much for joining us. Everybody, we are getting you into Week 12. We're going to get into Week 12 today, guys. We've got our Thursday night football preview. We're going to review some of the news and notes. We've got a lot of buys this week, guys. It's going to hurt bad. So we're going to talk about some streaming options for your playoffs and we're going to get you into some hit-its and quit-its with our starts and sits of the week.
Speaker 2:All right, frankie, you want to get into some news, baby, let's do it. Johnny, let's get into some news, baby. All right, before we get into the news, guys, I just want to say thank you so much for following us on social media. If you like this video, please follow us everywhere on social media. Also, we know you listen on audio everywhere podcasts are found. Please follow, subscribe, watch on YouTube, guys. The YouTube videos are great. All right, let's get into some news here, frankie. First bit of news we got a shit show continuing here. The shit show continues in New York. The Jets have fired their GM, joe Douglas. What the fuck's going on with New York, man? I mean dumpster fire John.
Speaker 1:I mean on both sides, whether you're looking at the Giants, whether you're looking at the Jets, it's just a mess. But the Jets, man, I mean, you fire Robert Sala, you fire Joe Douglas, you bring in Aaron Rodgers who's playing like shit. Devontae Adams is surely going to cure all issues right? Absolutely not. It is as bad as it gets, man. I really think it is.
Speaker 2:I mean, as a Browns fan, I'm just thankful there's another team taking it. Nobody even cares about the Browns, like whatever. Throw them out there with Carolina and some of these shit bags. But the Jets, oh my God man. I mean just headline after headline, what do they do next year? I mean, are you going to build a team now around Aaron Rodgers after firing basically the entire staff? What do you do?
Speaker 1:I mean, you know the guy who actually has a lower winning percentage than Zach Wilson on the Jets. Think about that. That's absurd, to even say that out loud. He has a worse winning percentage than Zach Wilson did for the Jets. And so for me, man, I don't know. This is crazy. This is almost unprecedented, because this is a Hall of Fame quarterback 100%. He's a Hall of Fame quarterback playing terrible ball. The defense is playing terrible. Man, I think you got to strip it down to the bare bones here and I think you got to start building up like that, and maybe you're going to write it on the coattails of aaron rogers and you're going to put linemen around him that can give him additional time. But honestly, man, at the end of the day he's playing like shit. So is the defense. There's a lot of issues going on.
Speaker 2:He needs to to go see a shaman. That's all I can say. Aaron, you're going to have to go see a shaman brother, because things are not working. Man, not at all. You know what One thing about it is that I mean, if you want to silence Aaron Rodgers, it's just him playing like shit and the team sucking. He hasn't said shit.
Speaker 1:Not at all.
Speaker 2:He has nothing to back it up. He can't point any fingers because he knows the first finger he needs to be looking at is his own right in the goddamn mirror. Man, all right, let's get some more news here. Brock Purdy, quarterback for the 49ers, dealing with some shoulder soreness, shouldn't keep him out this week, but keep an eye on that. We need to give you an update on Fridays with Frankie. We'll do that. Jonathan Brooks, rookie running back, has not played yet this year. We're going to see him. We're going to finally see him on the field here, frankie Running back of the Carolina Panthers. He will debut in Week 12 versus Kansas City. What do you do? I know you drafted him. I think you traded him away. I've got him in a league or two Been sitting on him. This long Talk to the Jonathan Brooks owners. Can we finally play him? Where do we play him? When, owners, can we finally play him? Where do we play him? When do we?
Speaker 1:play him. What do we do with him, matt? Absolutely not. I'm not playing him this week. Guys, this is against Kansas City. He's going to be split in time with Chuba. They just paid Chuba, which rightfully so, but this is not the week that I would be looking to roll out Jonathan Brooks. And, to be honest with you, man, this is going to feed into some issues as well with Chuba, right, because if Jonathan Brooks even comes in and starts taking 30% of the snap share which, if you draft a guy in the second round of that talent like Jonathan Brooks, right, he could end up beaten into that. And so for me, man, I think it's a lose-lose for both Chuba owners as well as Jonathan Brooks owners, not just because Brooks is back, but also due to the matchup as well.
Speaker 2:All right, and Adam Thielen for the Carolina Panthers also expected to play this week as well. Not a great start, but again, we're missing a lot of people. If you're in deeper leagues, I know start sits in my 14 team double flex league. It's almost a joke because if you've got a healthy guy on your bench you're probably plugging them in For sure. Yeah, but regular leagues 12, 10-man leagues you can't be starting Jonathan Brooks or Adam Thielen for that matter, this week against Kansas City. Gabe Davis, wide receiver for the Jacksonville Jaguars, out for the season with a meniscus repair. Gabe Davis is gone. That team really has gone down the tubes. Just everybody's missing here. New York Giants hey, a little more drama in New York while we're at it, let's see, let's go to Times Square here. New York Giants are going to be starting Tommy DeVito hey, tommy.
Speaker 1:DeVito. All right, let's go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tommy Cutlets In place of the benched Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is not even the backup. The backup is Drew Locke. All right, break this down, man. We were laughing our asses off about this earlier. Talk to me about the Giants. What the hell's happening here?
Speaker 1:I mean, dude, it's so bad. I mean like, because, at the end of the day, you look at the contract for Daniel Jones and, first of all, daniel Jones has made over I believe it was 108 million in the last six years and he has very little to show for it, and so you would think, hey, he's probably going to be back up. What this tells me is John, he's gone, he is nowhere on their radar moving forward next year. You bump him to quarterback three, and then what's interesting is you're playing Tommy DeVito over Drew Locke. You know what that tells me is they are actively trying to tank. I really think so, john, because there's no way in hell you sign a backup in Drew Locke and pay him what. You're paying him a couple million and you're paying Tommy DeVito I think it's like $845,000 or something like that and you're going to roll his ass out there to be, you know, a viable option, a real option, when you have Drew Locke.
Speaker 1:No man, what they're doing is they're putting themselves in a position to get the best possible draft pick possible, while also, in my opinion, kind of putting a blindfold over the fans a bit, and what I mean by that is at least Tommy DeVito gives the fans a little bit of juice. They give them a little bit of craziness. The agents wearing the top hat Italian doll they got sung to at least like jibe with. It's kind of like the Minshew mania. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:He wasn't very good but at the same time you love him as a fan, think it's kind of a smart move by the Giants John, if I'm being honest with you, because you're putting the blindfold over the fans by doing this. You don't have to. You're done with Daniel Jones. You're drawing the line in the sand and you're kind of able to tank in a savvy way. They're going to go get their quarterback this year, man. So yeah, it's going to be tough for your Giants fan the rest of this year. There's hope. There's hope for the draft and for things to come, but we'll wait and see.
Speaker 2:Now I like Tyrone Tracy. The rest of the year.
Speaker 1:I love Tyrone Tracy.
Speaker 2:What are we doing with Malik Neighbors? I know in our leagues a lot of leagues week 12 is the deadline for trades. Are you going to try to move Malik Neighbors just for the name value and what he was able to do early in the year, maybe to get you another piece?
Speaker 1:For me, absolutely not. Guys, I'm rolling, I'm staying in the flames of Malik Nabors, and the reason being is because there truly isn't anyone else other than Tyrone Tracy. Sure, there's Wandale Robinson, and sure he's performed decent, but nobody of superstar caliber. And for me, man, I really believe that you could put anybody behind that center spot as a quarterback and throw looking to throw the ball. Malik, neighbors, is open actually to the tune of he is the most open player, john, right now. Through 11 weeks, through 11 weeks, he gets open the most out of any player in the NFL. So if you can just kind of get it in his vicinity, give him a shot. I think that just by sheer target volume alone, he's going to give you a phenomenal floor heading into the rest of your year.
Speaker 2:Great schedule for receivers as well. Moving forward Tampa Bay, dallas, new Orleans, baltimore, atlanta, indy really nice schedule, man. So, all right, good, good advice there. I was wondering, asking for a friend, if I should have him trade or her trade, malik neighbors. Answer is no, no Schedule's too good. He's a bog. I love it. Okay, all right. Next next report oh God, this one makes my heart sing. Maybe I've been sitting on this guy all damn year, a couple leagues. According to Ian Rappaport, isaiah Pacheco, running back for the Kansas City Chiefs, is quote healthy enough to play week 12, but he may be held out for week 13, just as a precaution, frankie, I'm going to need you to write this down. Take some notes for our Fridays with Frankie. I need to know about Isaiah Pacheco and whether or not I can put him in my lineup. Is he going to be on the field? If he does, what are we doing here? Are we firing Pacheco straight up? What do you do with Kareem Hunt? What happens if they say he is playing this weekend? John, if?
Speaker 1:he is playing. If Pacheco is playing, I'm rolling him out there. It is too good of a matchup, guys. They're playing Carolina. I think that you've got to temper expectations with Kareem, john. I think that that's the reality. Pacheco, as good as Kareem has been. You watch Pacheco and you're like holy shit. If you remember week one, if you remember end of year last year, pacheco's a younger Kareem. He runs angry as hell.
Speaker 2:I was going to say he runs very much like Kareem did in his prime.
Speaker 1:Exactly, that's exactly it, and so for me, man, I'm firing up a Jacob. He's playing. I'm not going to fire up Kareem, and that's just me personally. I actually and I want to call that out real quick, john, there were a couple of guys that were giving us a little bit of shit on YouTube talking about you can't trade Kareem Hunt. Nobody's going to take them.
Speaker 1:Everybody already knows the reality is, then, you're putting together bad trades, and I can say that because I, john, you can be as my witness I have made the trade. I've traded away Kareem Hunt and, yeah, it wasn't super great, but I knew that the split was coming with Pacheco. So what I did in a 12-man league full PPR is I traded Kareem Hunt and Marvin Harrison Jr for Rico Dowdle and Malik Neighbors, right. So I knew I'm taking a hit at the running back spot for the last two weeks, knowing that this split was coming, but I'm not losing anything at the receiver spot. So those are the types of trades that you guys need to be thinking about, and right now you still might have a sliver of hope in that window. If somebody needs them due to the buy weeks, try to offload cream hunt, guys. It is possible, though, you're not going to get the value that you could have last week, or even the week before.
Speaker 2:Just wanted to call that out. John, never tell Frankie you can't trade somebody, because he will immediately go trade that person. Just to prove you reflect. No, it's true, though. It's all situational. Yeah, in a vacuum. Yes, you should already know that Pacheco's coming, it's looming and Kareem Hunt's value is dropping. But somebody needed a running back last week for a start and they're trying to make the playoffs. I've got that in a handful of leagues or this week, I would trade for Kareem Hunt. If you're missing all of your running backs, which we'll get to the buys in a second. There are a lot of guys missing. You're missing a couple of running backs. You're going to make a trade. You're going to get a piece to be able to get Kareem Hunt to help you this week, right now. So that trade is still possible right now even.
Speaker 1:And in that scenario, john, I am starting Kareem Hunt. In that scenario, to where I know, there's bye weeks. I have my RB one on bye, RB two on bye. I'm rolling out dog shit. At this point I'm definitely taking the risk and firing up Kareem at that point.
Speaker 2:Even if Kareem gets 30 to 50% of the carries which it's not going to be a Pacheco 80% of the carries, I mean that's very unlikely in his first week back, especially when they're not going to need him to do that. I could see Kareem Hunt closing this game out, getting Pacheco ready for the next week. All right, let's move on here. We've got Darnell Mooney injured his hamstring. He's not considered to be serious. They're on a bye this week. He should be good to go after the bye. Just keep an eye on that for the Mooney owners, zamir White and Alexander Madison, both running backs for the Las Vegas Raiders. Both got hurt last week, so this year. This week we've got Amir Abdullah looking to start for week 12 versus Denver.
Speaker 1:Fire him up, John.
Speaker 2:Fire him up. Start of the week, baby, amir Abdullah. No, I thought it was too easy to set Amir Abdullah as my sit of the week. I almost said sit the entire goddamn Raider team except for Brock Bowers, but that was just too weak and too easy for me. I don't want to be chalk, you know. All right, a couple guys in concussion protocol here, tajay Spears and Jake Ferguson, both in concussion protocol, highly likely to miss this week, all right. Last piece of news we got Big Mike coming back. Man, mike Evans returned to practice. Looks good, feels good. He is set to play, barring any setbacks, this week. So fire up Mike Evans. And, man, is he going to get a ton of Baker Mayfield targets? Baker can't wait, trust me, baker can't wait.
Speaker 2:All right, let's look at week 12 here. Frankie, let's move forward here. We've got the Bills on by, wow. We've got the Bengals on by. We've got the Falcons on by. We've got the Jags on by. The Jets and the Saints. Good God, the fantasy gods are not smiling upon us right now, man. This is a ton of fantasy. Gods are not smiling upon us right now. Man. This is a ton of fantasy. These are a ton of guys that are going to be missing, and it's right in the worst time of the year when people are trying to make the playoffs. I know I am, and this is going to make it a lot harder. All right, frankie, let's talk a little bit about some streaming candidates here.
Speaker 2:We want to talk about streaming quarterbacks for your playoffs and streaming defenses for your playoffs. The reason why we want to talk about it right now, guys, is because you need to be looking at this. I've got Jaden Daniels on a bye in week 14. I'm planning ahead right now so I can cover that. You need to be looking at your playoffs. If you're streaming quarterbacks and defenses, which a lot of people are, look at the matchups. You may have somebody playing against Pittsburgh's defense in week one of your playoffs. You may have somebody playing against Pittsburgh's defense in week one of your playoffs. You don't want that.
Speaker 2:If you can find a better option, look for a better option. Guys with nice matchups. Guys you can pick up off the waiver wire. So we're going to look at this for you. We're going to name a few guys that you can look at that may be able to help you out in week 15, 16, and 17. Here we're going to talk about three quarterbacks specifically that I think you can pick up now. That can help you for at least two of the three of these weeks. If you're looking at that, that's Baker Mayfield, it's Bo Nix and it's Justin Herbert. All right, so let's break it down for week 15. Frankie, let's talk about some of these quarterbacks for week 15 that you can look at streaming.
Speaker 1:John, for me, baker Mayfield is huge. Guys Again thinking about he's at. Well, really, baker Mayfield, it's going to be week 16, and week 17 you're going to be targeting Baker Mayfield, but week 15, it's definitely Bo Nix. Guys, what Bo Nix has been able to do is it's incredible. It really is incredible. I mean, he's quarterback number seven in most leagues at this point in time. He is over 24 total touchdown. Dude has been balling.
Speaker 1:And then you walk into week 15, john, and you're staring at the Colts right now, and so for me, that is a really solid matchup for and what's interesting too this could have a lot of playoff implications in the real NFL standpoint, like, right now, the Broncos are the last team in, but the Colts are right there behind them. They're not too far. So this is a lot of playoff implication, meaning that the Bo Nix is going to have to play his ass off. So for me, man, I love Bo Nix in week 15 and love him in week 17 against the Cincinnati Bengals, to where, really, the Bengals defense has been pretty putrid all year, outside of a few games. So I love that from that perspective, john, the other quarterback, justin Herbert, week 15 matchup, honestly is probably as good as it can get. You're playing against Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay, from a passing perspective, passing defense perspective has been really, really rough. You can throw the ball on them all over the field. Justin Herbert alone has really come into his own. He's vibing in this Jim Arbaugh type of offense and he's also getting a plethora of pieces involved, including that of Ladd McConkie, quentin Johnston and he's getting JK Dobbins. It's just what the Chargers have going on is really special, man. So for me, looking at Justin Herbert in week 15 against Tampa, that is a must start in my opinion. So if you guys can plan ahead, if Justin Herbert's sitting on the waiver wire, pick his ass up, man, it's great.
Speaker 1:And then you can look at week 17 as well for Justin Herbert against that of New England at New England, and so I really think that that's a good AFC showdown. It'll be fun to watch that of Drake May, justin Herbert and again Justin Herbert and them. They got a lot to fight for right now. Man. I mean they're seven and three, john, we're talking. Chiefs are nine-1. Something happens Chiefs slip a game and Herbert ends up continuing what he's been doing. Now we might have a little showdown here, coming for the divisional title. So even through Week 17,.
Speaker 1:Guys, that's another thing you want to be thinking of too is that when you start getting into that Super Bowl timeframe, you want to make sure that some of these quarterbacks or players are also not going to be benched due to waiting, for they're already in the playoffs themselves. The coaches want to be really careful with the team, so on and so forth. So if there's teams like that of the Denver Broncos or the Chargers, when they have something to fight for, target the shit out of those teams. Again, same thing with Baker, as I mentioned. Looking at week 16 and week 17, john Dallas and Carolina gold. So those are the three. I love how you called those out. Those are absolutely the three that I'm targeting.
Speaker 2:And Justin Herbert also more shallow leagues. You'll be able to pick him up, likely on the waiver wire. But Justin Herbert is a trade four candidate for me For those exact reasons. When you look at his game logs, first four weeks they ran the ball a lot. He didn't throw for over 180 yards in any game. Then they had their bye week. Soon, as their bye week hit, he's thrown almost over 250 yards every game but one.
Speaker 2:I mean just really been balling out multiple touchdowns and three out of the five. I mean he's really really been playing well. Last two weeks he was the quarterback eight, quarterback 12, before that quarterback nine. So he's coming on. I mean this team is really starting to come on. The coaching has started to saturate itself. I mean Harbaugh obviously is really turning this team around, saturate itself. I mean Harbaugh obviously is really turning this team around.
Speaker 2:And, yeah, I mean I really think he is what. 38 points, 26 points, 33 points, 38 points last four games. So Justin Herber, with the schedule he's got coming up Baltimore, atlanta, kansas City, tampa Bay these are all very nice teams to be able to throw on as a quarterback. So I really like it. I think he's a trade for candidate and I also think he's a wonderful streaming candidate for your playoffs. All right, frankie, let's look at let's look at week 17 here. What are some of the quarterbacks that we're looking at for week 17 in your Super Bowl? Now again, we talked about Baker having multiple weeks in the playoffs. If you get him, you can kind of set it and forget it. You can do one of those. Bo Nix again has a couple of weeks and Justin Herbert has a couple of weeks, but there's a few other guys we want to talk about that may be good streaming candidates for your Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:John, the other few that I'm thinking of, and one guy that comes to mind right away is Matt Stafford. The way Matt Stafford has been cooking lately, now that he's got his toys back, he got, you know, the Lambo waiting with Puka. You got the Corvette with Cooper Cup right, you got all this shit kind of going on. You got Kyron Williams with your Porsche. He's got all these beautiful toys that he's ready to unload. And, by the way correct me if I'm wrong I believe that they are either one game behind or they're tied for the division lead at this point in time. So, john, they are really on fire. And here's what's really cool when you start looking at what Stafford has done since week eight okay, this is since week eight whether it's a super flex or even a one quarterback lead here, john, it's been pretty incredible.
Speaker 1:So I got this up since week eight. Here we have 33.76 fantasy points against Minnesota. He had 21.92 points against Seattle. Yeah, he had a down week against Miami. Sure, we'll toss that one out. And last week, john, 36.8 points. He's had over 20 points in three out of the last four. And then you're telling me that you're going to be sitting there in week 17 looking at a game that could decide again we talked about it just now a game that could decide a division, and you're telling me you don't want Matt Stafford on your team for that. Damn it, dude. I'm loving every bit of it, man. So Matt Stafford is definitely one of those guys for me.
Speaker 2:All right, let's talk about another guy here, with Tua Tungavailoa. It's kind of surprising. We can talk about him as a streaming quarterback, but he is, let's face it, he's a streaming quarterback. He was gone for a while and people made other choices and now he's back, but Tua at Cleveland in week 17,. Do you trust that for your Super Bowl?
Speaker 1:You know what, john, I'm going to err on the side of?
Speaker 1:Actually no, and the reason being is and I know we have them listed here, but I wanted to keep it here because I wanted to talk about it Tua is interesting because Tua does very, very well when there is indoors or in good weather.
Speaker 1:When you're thinking about Tua heading into Cleveland in dogshit weather in week 17 against a team who has nothing to lose in Cleveland, that is a team I necessarily don't want to be having my starting quarterback play for, and knowing it's probably going to be in frigid, cold weather, snow, rain, something like that. We've seen the Dolphins melt down. So even though on paper, sure it looks good, and yeah, tyreek Hill's back, and sure Waddle's looking good, do I even need to say anything about Janu Smith after last week? But here's the reality, man. Is that when we start boiling this down, do you want to anchor your potential Super Bowl quarterback against a team in an environment to where he's been known not to really play that great? And so for me, I'm actually leaning towards not starting Tua. And I know we didn't even talk about this, so it was probably kind of a shock to you. Curious what you think about that.
Speaker 2:All right, let's pretend we look at the 10-day forecast in week 15. Let's take the weather out of it. I agree with you. 100. The way I look at it. Cleveland being a cleveland fan, I've got the stupid helmet in the background. I'm ready to throw it out the window, being a cleveland fan, come week 17. Nobody's playing for anything. Man denzel ward not going to be on the team, likely next year anyway. I could see him being injured in week 17 and not playing. Myles Garrett really hasn't been a factor. I just think this team doesn't care anymore. I think it's a team if the weather's good. I do think that the Dolphins do end up rolling on this team. I really do. I think it could be a possibility for you. But yeah, really good call with the weather, because you're absolutely right. Outdoors inclement weather. We've seen enough of Tua to see that that is going to be a struggle for him.
Speaker 1:John. I'll tell you what, though. This other guy is somebody I would take over Tua, and it's Anthony Richardson. That's a hot take there, especially-.
Speaker 2:How quickly we forget One good week out of anthony richardson basically all year, by the way. Guy gets benched, comes back in last week and guess what he bowled out? He played very, very well, highest completion percentage he's ever had in the nfl last week.
Speaker 1:So there you go tip of the cap. I mean, dude, it was a tip of the cap to anthony richardson, and you know what. Good for you, dude. Good for you for stepping up after all this shit, rightfully so, rightfully so. You got to grow up a little bit and learn. You can't say, even if you're feeling it, you can't say you're tired. That's not an excuse. It's not an excuse. You got to be tougher than that and that's just the reality of it. Let's set that to the side.
Speaker 1:Week 17, he's at the Giants. We're talking about it. We got Tommy Cutlets versus Anthony Richardson here. Man, potentially, potentially, it could be Drew Locke. Pride shot Flex it, flex it, baby. So I'm telling you, man, I think Anthony Richardson would give you a bit higher floor due to his rushing capability. Again, the Colts are kind of still in it. It makes it even better. So I would even be leaning again're talking. This is week 12 right now. There's a lot of time in between now and week 17,. But as it sits right now, I would be leaning actually towards more A-rich.
Speaker 2:And we're also talking about. We just talked about the Giants potentially tanking. So you know I want my quarterback playing against a team that's tanking for the first overall pick. That's what I want. Yeah, all right, let's talk about some defenses here, man, we got a handful of defenses that we can lay out. Look at streaming for week 15, 16, and 17. Talk to me about some defenses you like here, man.
Speaker 1:Guys, Arizona Cardinals first one that sticks out, and I know we talked about it on our last week episode when we were like pick up these guys, trade for candidates James Conner, Kyler, Murray, Marv right, Trey McBride, et cetera. Look at the defense as well. Week 15 is against New England right, that's a pretty damn good matchup for a defense. And then week 16, John, I'm just salivating it is at Carolina. Okay, Like anytime, you're playing against Bryce Young and yeah, shout out, Bryce Young, you, you know you're. You're cleaned up your act a little bit Good. Good job, man. Tip of the cap Arizona should come in and do do their business, right, that's just the reality of it. So if you get an opportunity to get Arizona and you can stash them right now, that would be fantastic for you in the long haul.
Speaker 2:All right, let's talk to me a little bit about. This is one that I wouldn't normally want to sit on this defense, but I think, because of their matchups coming up week 15 and 16, I think we have to right. Talk to me about the Falcons man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, john, you know this is a really good comp because the Falcons' defense is very similar in my eyes, as like what the Jacksonville defense would be. And Jacksonville is another team we have listed on here, and I'll tell you why. Atlanta's week 15 is at Vegas. Love that it's inside, it's great. Vegas is kind of in turmoil right now, not doing a super good job, even though Gardner Minshew had a good game. Overall they're kind of an abysmal type of team, and then you have Week 16 against them Giants. So there's a little bit of a pattern here, johnny, if I do say so myself.
Speaker 1:So, Week 15, week 16, guys with those types of matchups, look at Jacksonville then as well. You look at Week 16 and Week 17,. We got Vegas again. So Jacksonville is at Vegas. And then Week 17 they're playing against Tennessee and, honestly, will Levis has not been playing well at all and the offense hasn't been looking very good under Levis. The only shining bright star, honestly, is Ridley, and maybe Pollard, if you can stomach it in some weeks. So for me, man, I kind of lumped those two in together because it's matchup based to your point. You're. I might not be as prone to stashing them this early, but if you can get them in a week 14, if you can get them in a week, you know, 15 right out of the gate, definitely good options for for your playoff.
Speaker 2:Uh, start yeah, and we're not telling you guys to pick these defenses up now. We're telling, if you can sure, if you're sitting at the number one seed, you have no chance of not being that number one seed. Start planning out your streamers now for the playoffs. Of course, most people are trying to fight their way into the playoffs, so don't do it now. One team that, a defense that I I'm looking at, that I think you can pick up next week and you can play them in week 14, 15, and 16. So that can save you three weeks of having to deal with the defense. It's the Cincinnati Bengals. They're at Dallas, then at Tennessee and then they play Cleveland in Cleveland. I really like this one. What do you think about Cincinnati with these?
Speaker 1:You know John Cincinnati. And yes, the answer is yes, I do like it. And it's funny because I was just talking about how, yeah, their defense hasn't been super great. Well, the difference is who they're playing against obviously like in these particular games here and how good their offense has been Like. So when you start looking at Joe Burrow and him being unbelievable the last few weeks, and then you have the potential triple crown winner in that of Jamar Chase, and Chase Brown looks good. T Higgins comes back and looks like an absolute monster, and then you start layering on okay, they're running up the score.
Speaker 1:Now, the offense that they're playing against are one-dimensional. You know they're going to have to throw the ball right. And then when you're telling me, you got it, cooper Rush, cooper Rush is going to have to throw the ball on us. Okay, go ahead, bring it. You. Looking at Tennessee, will Levis, no, mason Rudolph, bring it Cleveland. God, bring it all day. You know, fuck Cleveland, fuck them.
Speaker 1:I hate them, I hate them. But yeah, dude, yeah, it's sickening. I literally am looking and seeing this shit behind me. I just hate them. But yeah, dude. So I love those, I love those matchups and I love the fact that the Bengals have the opportunity to run the score up and again, when we talk about these types of teams that have to fight to get into their own playoff, the number one team that comes to my mind is the Bengals. Right now, totally outside, looking in, they're two and a half games, two games out right now, from the seventh seed in the AFC, they are the team 100% that needs to throw everything on the line. Seed in the AFC, they are the team 100% that needs to throw everything on the line and with that, that is scary for fantasy in a good way. So, yes, I do like it for weeks 14, 15, 16, especially.
Speaker 2:All right last team we want to talk about here. We're picking on the Giants and the Titans, obviously, but take a look at the Colts as well. Colts play at home versus Tennessee in week 16, and then they play at the Giants in week 17. Really nice matchup, especially if the Colts are still in the hunt, which they currently are. So keep an eye on that one. All right, frankie, let's get to the Thursday night football preview. What do we have going on for Thursday night football? Man Guys?
Speaker 1:we're going to dive into Thursday night and of course you know our Thursday night is sponsored by our new sponsor and partnership with BetStamp and SignUpExpert. Guys, again, we say it every week, and every week somebody else signs up and says you guys rock, thank you for those bonus bets and things of that nature. What this does is it's opened up an incredible opportunity for you to join some of our favorite sports books to get the best odds and new user offers. So how does it work? You head over to our dedicated page, signupexpertcom, backslash frankly, to explore a selection of tailored sports books to your region, each with unique offerings. Throw in 20 bucks, get a bonus bet back. If you lose, get additional bonus bets as a whole right, and so you get an opportunity. Maybe it's a no sweat, whatever it may be, check it out. If you're ready to take your sports betting to the next level and show some love for the Frankly brand, which we appreciate more than you know, we highly recommend signing up for your next sports book through Sign Up Expert Link. You can find it in the description of our video, again sponsored by our thursday night preview. So, with that being said, guys, we have the steelers eight and two at the cleveland browns. Two and eight.
Speaker 1:John, I don't think there's much more to say about this. I think that look at from the steelers side, guys, you love you some fryer muth, you love you some nausea, you love you some. I mean george pickens, I mean you're probably even fine to start russ. If I'm being honest with you, if you need, with all these bye weeks, fire him up. Really, I mean shit man. If you honestly even need Jalen Warren and you have all these other players on bye maybe you had James Cook, brees Hall, braylon Allen, you know, bijan Robinson, whatever it may be, alvin Kamara, taysom Hill right, you can now plug and play Jalen Warren in one of those spots as well. That's how bad the Browns have been from that perspective.
Speaker 1:John, flip side of it is, when you look at the Browns, who can you actually trust against this defense Guys? It's damn near nobody. You look at what the defense did against Lamar. You look at what the defense did against Zay Flowers. You look at what this defense has done against the top, most top caliber teams in the NFL and for the most part, they've locked them up.
Speaker 1:I mean actually just calling this out the Steelers, and I believe this to be correct. I'll need to be checked on this. So all you crazies out there please call me out on this. However, the Steelers are the only team in the NFL this year to win at least twice, two games to where they haven't scored a touchdown. Think about that. That's how good their defense has been. That's not how bad their offense has been. That's how good their defense has been. And so when you think about who to fire up for the Browns, really it's thin guys. And Joku, as long as he's healthy he's a questionable tag right now, but he's looking like he'll probably be okay Maybe Jerry Judy after going nuclear this past week, and maybe Cedric Tillman. John, you can't start Chubb, you can't start. Jameis, can't start any of these other cats. So for me, it's really three, maybe two and a half, two and a half-ish for the Browns, and you're firing up a lot of them on the Steelers.
Speaker 2:I Browns and you're firing up the lot of them on the Steelers. I saw I get, I got an Instagram post from NFL Browns was the shout out to NFL Browns who ever runs that channel? And it was a post saying that the Cleveland fans need to boycott the Browns. The only way Jimmy Haslam is going to get get this through his goddamn head is if we stop buying tickets. Can you imagine? If it's not, I I'm telling you right now there will be more Pittsburgh Steelers fans at Cleveland Browns Stadium on Thursday night than there will be Cleveland Browns fans.
Speaker 2:It's going to be heartbreaking it's going to be. So I guarantee you're going to watch. Mark my words. They will show big shots of the stadium, of the terrible towels shaken around and you're going to see so much yellow in that stadium. It's going to be disgusting.
Speaker 1:But you know what the Browns deserve it. It's disgusting, man. I mean, we were there. We were there, guys, for those listening and watching. We would do a gentleman's night every single year, every single year, up until last year, and then, you know, a couple of things happen and we were supposed to whatever, but this year we were supposed to do. It's always a thursday night game and, john, we have been.
Speaker 1:We were at the game when miles ripped off the helmet from mason rudolph and swung. We were there when they were opening up the chest because the browns haven't won shit and baker mayfield comes out for tyrod taylor and the whole city is freaking out, and now to see that this game doesn't mean anything is so rough. So for me, man, I agree with you, like I agree with you that we need to rip it down to the studs and figure it out, man, because the fans deserve more, the city deserves more, and this is not a knock to the Steelers fans or anything like that. You know what guys. Hats off to you, because going into the year, the Steelers were the redheaded stepchild in the AFC North.
Speaker 1:Nobody wants to really say it outright. That's the real thing. They were not sure about Russ. Russ was always the oh, he's too happy-go-lucky, oh he's doing weird shit, or car wheels or something on the airplane or whatever the hell was going on, or yelled at somebody because of it. Whatever it may be, george Pickens was being crazy. They had to trade Deontay Johnson a lot of shit, and look at this they are phenomenal and it's because of the organization.
Speaker 2:Two words for you Mike Tomlin, mike Tomlin, mike Tomlin. He's one of the best coaches to ever get on the field and coach the game. Bottom line.
Speaker 1:Longest tenured coach. Longest tenured coach active in the NFL right now 18 years, 18 or 17 years, something like that, 17 or 18. Crazy, I mean. Hats off to you. So good job, steelers fans, good job sticking with your team. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:All right, let's move on to something more exciting here. Fred, now we both got a little depressed. We're just like, yeah, man, it just yeah. Another season. All right, see you next year, guys. All right, all right, let's get to our hit it's and quit it's. Baby, let's hit it and quit it. All right, Frank, our hit it's and quit it's. For those of you who don't know, that is our starts and sits. We'll see who we want to hit and start, who we want to quit and sit.
Speaker 1:Frankie who was your first hit it this week, john, my first hit is coming out of the Broncos, baby Broncos country. Let's ride Going with Cortland Sutton at Vegas. And yes, last time I said start Cortland Sutton, I got a bunch of crap for it. This time I'm saying it y'all better listen. Vegas is not playing great and at this point they have gave up many, many points to receivers. Also, on that point, cortland Sutton is averaging 9.5 yards a target per game, and over the last, and that's over the last four games. In addition to that, over the last four games, guys, he's also averaging seven receptions a game. Seven receptions a game and nine and a half targets a game over the last four weeks. And in addition, he hasn't had less than 70 yards in the last four weeks. So what does that mean? Just by averages alone, 14 points in full PPR Fire up Cortland Sutton against that of the Las Vegas Raiders. 14 points and full PPR Fire up Cortland.
Speaker 2:Sutton against that of the Las Vegas Raiders. All right, I'm going. We're going to go with the stack. Frankie, this is our stack of the week. Man, my start of the week goes right with your start of the week. It's going to be Bo Nix, quarterback for the Denver Broncos at the Las Vegas Raiders. Also, by the way, dfs lineups beautiful stack with Cortland Sutton and Bo Nix. I will be having that in my lineup for sure.
Speaker 2:All right, bo Nix, we talked about it, he's the quarterback seven right now. Guys, let's not forget about this Quarterback seven. Last week he was 28 for 33 for 307 yards, with four touchdowns over Atlanta. Just a beautiful week for a rookie man. Top 12 performance. He was a top 12 QB in five of his last seven games with multiple touchdowns in each. It's beautiful man. He's only thrown two picks since week three. Let me repeat that he's only thrown two picks since week three as a rookie quarterback. Unbelievable Sean Payton, he's the whisperer man. He really is the other reason why I love Bo Nix. This week and, for that matter, cortland Sutton Raiders give up the eighth most fantasy points to QBs. This is a matchup. You saw in our streaming how we are attacking the Raiders defense when it comes to playoff matchups and schedules. Attack it right now with Bo Nix. Put him out there. He's got a rushing floor, he's throwing great, he's making really good decisions. Get him out there and enjoy it, john.
Speaker 1:Bo Nix and like Corlin Sutton this week are we like peanut butter and chocolate? People always say peanut butter and jelly. No, it's peanut butter and chocolate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who eats jelly? I'm a grown-ass man. When's the last time you've had jelly on anything? Put some hate on your chest, john.
Speaker 1:We've got peanut butter and chocolate up in here, all right, all right. My hit at number two here is Jamal Jannings, from the head of the 49ers, playing at Green Bay. Guys, here's the deal Back-to-back games with 11 targets. We have 17 receptions in those two games and he has 184 yards. He is going crazy.
Speaker 1:Now you might be thinking, well, green Bay's defense is good. It is good, but here's what's interesting is that CMC is back. Defenses have to now key on him. George Kittle, if he is healthy, is going to be a person that the defense needs to key on. Then you also have Deebo Samuel. What happens is Juwan Jennings is constantly getting one-on-one matchups. Or in a zone he's getting a smaller nickel, or he's getting an outside linebacker that can't run with him, or a cornerback right in his own play that they're just going to run over top. So for me, man Juwan Jennings is in a perfect position to continue doing what he's doing and as long as Brock Purdy's healthy right we called it out that he has some arm soreness and things like that should be fine, but I definitely, definitely love Juwan Jennings this week.
Speaker 2:I have my second start of the week. My second hit it. It's Brian Robinson Jr running back for the Washington Manders versus Dallas. First of all, brian Robinson Jr, he's a goddamn touchdown machine man. Seven touchdowns in the last eight games that he's played Dallas. The defense they're playing. It's the fourth worst in allowing fantasy points to running backs. I mean, we all witnessed it on monday night when they got torched by joe mixon. Torched by joe mixon, not saying brian robbins is going to have that kind of game. He's not that kind of player, but he's a lock for a touchdown this week. Lock it in right now. Johnny's lock of the week brian robinson jr for a touchdown versus Dallas.
Speaker 2:I know Well. He had 16 rushes for 72 yards and a touchdown against the fifth-ranked rushing defense of Philadelphia. He's not going to have those problems against Dallas. He's going to be able to do pretty much what he wants. They get inside the 10 zone near the red zone. There, near the end zone, brian Robinson is running the ball in. They're all scared of Jaden Daniels and Robinson walks in touchdowns every single week. Lock it in.
Speaker 1:Love it, john. My third hit it. Guys. Here's actually one I'm going to go a bit on the edge here for, and it's Ladd-McConkie versus that of the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1:Here is why I like Ladd-y this week. Number one is, if we look at what has transpired across the entirety of the season, only one time in the last. Well, let's talk about the last five weeks here per se, one time in the last five weeks he's had under five receptions Only one time. Really good trajectory. In addition to this, he's had no less than 43 yards in every single game since week two. So what does that tell me? Knowing that there is a plethora of bye weeks going on, knowing that there are a lot of injuries that have happened as well, ladd McConkie is absolutely somebody. If you have him or you can get him for your flex spot is gold this week. So lock in Laddie. This game script could be very, very positive, especially after Baltimore Ravens just got smacked by the Steelers In terms of the Steelers not letting him do anything offensively. This game is looking to be flipped. I could see it being some good scoring here. Laddie's game script could be positive.
Speaker 2:All right, my third and final hit it for the week. This one is going to be for the more shallow leagues 8, 10, even 12-man leagues. It's going to be James Conner running back for the Arizona Cardinals at Seattle. Right now James Conner is the running back 16. Now last week I know he struggled with the run a little bit against the Jets. A good rush defense. He had 33 yards, but he also had 80 yards in the passing game. That's where James Conner can be very, very dangerous. He's had double digits in every week, but two weeks this year. That's a running back.
Speaker 2:You want to set and forget? It's beautiful. Now they're playing against Seattle at Seattle. Want to set and forget? It's beautiful. Now they're playing against Seattle at Seattle. The last three games for Seattle we've had James Cook, kyron Williams and CMC. The last three games, all of them had over 100 scrimmage yards. I think James Conner's going to continue this trend and get you over 100 scrimmage yards as well and possibly a score or two. Start up James Conner and feel good about it. Frankie, who are you quitting this?
Speaker 1:week. Johnny, these are hot. These are hot takes here, but I'm definitely quitting them. Number one is Aaron Jones at Chicago Guys. That is so difficult to do. I understand, especially with the bye weeks. It's not probably plausible or even feasible for a lot of people. However, if it is, just check yourself for a second, the reason being is because Aaron Jones is actually down to just about a 50% snap share in back-to-back weeks, and actually it is 52% in week 10 and 53% last week alone. In addition, the Bears have a pretty solid defense and after that emotional loss against the Packers, I could see them coming out with pure vengeance against another NFC North type of team.
Speaker 1:Here's what's also a bit concerning about Aaron Jones. Last four weeks in half PPR he's had under 11 points in every single week. So, yes, he has a. You could call it a fairly high floor, but when you actually look at what he did last week, he had four points, roughly five points and a half PPR. Not great, especially when you're needing to make this playoff push. So, john, I actually might look elsewhere. Some of the other guys I'm thinking about Tyrone Tracy, right Versus Tampa Bay, bucky Irving versus that of the Giants you could even look at, maybe looking at Ramondre Stevenson versus that of the Giants. You could even look at maybe looking at Ramondre Stevenson versus that of Miami. There are other players that I would put in front of Aaron Jones this week, strictly due to matchup that I think might give you a higher ceiling play for you, especially with bye week. So I'm looking at quitting Aaron Jones this week.
Speaker 2:All right, my first quit it. It's going to be Michael Pittman Jr of Indianapolis Colts wide receiver. They're playing at home against Detroit this week. I mean, that's enough to scare the shit out of you. As it is, detroit's been playing absolutely dominant and lights out.
Speaker 2:Michael Pittman Jr is the wide receiver. 53 right now. Man, it's been a real big struggle. It's been a real big struggle. He's been really hurt. He's been.
Speaker 2:You know, his back has been hurt, so I know that that's really slowed him down. I said to sit him a few weeks ago for that same reason I didn't want a decoy on my team, and that's exactly what it looked like he was. Now he's getting involved, he's getting some targets, but he hasn't scored double-digit points since week six, man, week six. So since week six, man, week six. So it's been a while. Josh Downs seems to be the possession receiver. He really is kind of the first look right now for Anthony Richardson, as he was with Joe Flacco. Alec Pierce now seems to be the downfield guy. There's really not really a role at the moment that's clearly defined for Michael Pittman and it could be because of the injury he's been dealing with. It's a really uneasy connection with Anthony Richardson Doesn't seem like something that I really want to put out there. I know we're missing a lot of receivers this week because of buys and injuries. If you can avoid Michael Pittman Jr, I absolutely would.
Speaker 1:John, my second quit. It is actually another super hot take, guys, and it is going to be Chuba Hubbard. I understand that I'm saying to quit the RB10. He's RB1. I understand that there are a ton of bye weeks, so this is an if you can, or this is a 8-10 man league. But here's the reason, Guys, they're playing against a pissed off Chiefs defense. Right, and I'm telling you, and I'm saying it specifically like that, because they lost and there was something there that they just against the Bills. There's something that happens and it looks like after that Bills game is when they always seem to turn it on into hyperdrive, heading into their particular playoff push as well.
Speaker 1:So for me, man, and you, look at what James Cook did. Sure, on paper you're like dude, james Cook had like what 17, 18 points he must have balled out. James Cook got bailed out on two touchdowns. He was held on 10 rushes to 20 yards, 20 yards on 10 touches, had he not gotten those touchdowns. We're talking 17, 18 points, two points. And the last key point we already mentioned it Jonathan Brooks is making his debut. Sure, I don't think Jonathan Brooks is going to come in and it's going to be a 50-50 split, anything like that. I think Chuba is going to carry the load. From that perspective, I think it could be like a 70-30, something like that to ease Jonathan Brooks in. But still you layer on a really tough defensive match. You layer on a really bad team in Carolina and then you layer on now even-level competition in terms of talent level. Sure opportunity might not be there, but still it makes it tough. So for me, guys, I might be looking elsewhere than that of Chuba Hubbard.
Speaker 2:All right, my final quiddit of the week is going to be Deontay Johnson, wide receiver, new wide receiver for the Baltimore Ravens. They're playing at the Los Angeles Chargers this week. Listen, I don't know what's going on with Deontay Johnson here, but the guy's just not getting on the field. The last two weeks. His snap percentage in the last two weeks was 8%. Last week it was 18%. He's on the field for 18% of the snaps. Last week. I know he's had one catch on four targets in two weeks. Guys, he's just not on the field.
Speaker 2:We were excited about this trade. They're clearly just not ready to use him yet. He's really having a difficult time finding a role in this offense. I don't know if he's having a hard time learning the offense and Harbaugh doesn't want to get him out there until he knows he's completely comfortable. Again, god, this is what a good organization, I guess, and good coaching probably does. I wouldn't know that, being a Browns fan, but maybe this is what you're supposed to do Either way playing against the Chargers, not getting on the field.
Speaker 2:You cannot start Deontay Johnson this week. All right, all right, frankie. That is the episode for the day. Thank you so much for joining us everybody. Hopefully we can get you through some of these bye weeks and injuries and we can give you a few ideas of who you should start and sit, start planning. Sit, start planning for your playoffs now. Those of you badasses that are sitting there at the top of your divisions start planning now. It's going to really piss everyone else off when you start picking up quarterbacks and defenses to plan for the playoffs. Frankie, what do we have coming up, man?
Speaker 1:Guys, don't forget and again, I say it every week because I know y'all love it Fridays with Frankie, Check it out. I'm definitely going to be giving you a check in on what's happening with Pacheco, definitely going to be talking about some Purdy, and we'll have some of the other key highlights getting you ready for your weekend matchups. And again, don't forget, guys, we also have week 13 coming up, john, one thing that we are going to be doing and I know we've talked about it is we want to continue to get you ready for your playoffs. So, guys, if your trade deadline isn't until week 13, let us know We've been helping others with different trade ideas. Keep the comments coming, keep the questions coming. Starts and sits with these. Bye weeks. We're here for you. I personally and Johnny personally. We answer every single comment possible. There will not go one unanswered, unless you're being a dick, and then you might just get a little smiley face right. So we're here for you. We love you. Don't forget Fridays with Frankie and next week's episode. We got you covered.
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Speaker 2:Bye, bye.